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How does buying out courses with grant money work?
How hard do early-career academics in the United States work, really?What if a faculty member is not successful in obtaining the summer salary from a funding agency?Negotiating mathematics postdoc salary when having an offer with higher salaryIs it normal for math grad students to be required to take summer classes to work?Why do academics work only nine months of the year?What is a soft-money research position?Course load expectations for teaching track and how to negotiate for coursesHow do professors choose their summer salary?How does “buying out” of teaching work?Why do professors use course-buyouts?
Normally a professor is paid for eight to nine months each academic year for teaching several courses in the period. However, if a professor gets research grant, he can support himself by the grant in the summer months, or teach less courses.
I'd like to know how it works exactly. Let's say, if a professor only teach the half of the normal load of courses, then he will receive half of his normal salary from the department and the rest is covered by the grant, right? If the grant is large enough, can he choose not teaching any course without loss of pay?
funding united-states academic-life salary
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Normally a professor is paid for eight to nine months each academic year for teaching several courses in the period. However, if a professor gets research grant, he can support himself by the grant in the summer months, or teach less courses.
I'd like to know how it works exactly. Let's say, if a professor only teach the half of the normal load of courses, then he will receive half of his normal salary from the department and the rest is covered by the grant, right? If the grant is large enough, can he choose not teaching any course without loss of pay?
funding united-states academic-life salary
edited 2 hours ago
Azor Ahai
4,77411842
asked 3 hours ago
Math WizardMath Wizard
1414
3
Variations of professors' pay is probably proportional to the number of professors...
– Solar Mike
3 hours ago
1
There is huge variation in how it works. What is true one place will be utterly false in another. Some are fully funded by outside sources and don't need to "teach" other than guiding doctoral students. But in many (most?) places the grant recipient can't manage the funds her/himself. An administrative office does and disburses funds when given appropriate documentation. You need to ask the question locally if it is of real concern to you.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
1
Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally. I want mainly how it works in mathematics
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
2
"Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally" - not at all. Advising PhD students is often completely independent of coursework.
– Bryan Krause
2 hours ago
1
At [most] US schools you are told a breakdown of the position's time. E.g., 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. So buying out of half of your classes is not worth half of your salary.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
Normally a professor is paid for eight to nine months each academic year for teaching several courses in the period. However, if a professor gets research grant, he can support himself by the grant in the summer months, or teach less courses.
I'd like to know how it works exactly. Let's say, if a professor only teach the half of the normal load of courses, then he will receive half of his normal salary from the department and the rest is covered by the grant, right? If the grant is large enough, can he choose not teaching any course without loss of pay?
funding united-states academic-life salary
edited 2 hours ago
Azor Ahai
4,77411842
asked 3 hours ago
Math WizardMath Wizard
1414
Normally a professor is paid for eight to nine months each academic year for teaching several courses in the period. However, if a professor gets research grant, he can support himself by the grant in the summer months, or teach less courses.
I'd like to know how it works exactly. Let's say, if a professor only teach the half of the normal load of courses, then he will receive half of his normal salary from the department and the rest is covered by the grant, right? If the grant is large enough, can he choose not teaching any course without loss of pay?
funding united-states academic-life salary
funding united-states academic-life salary
edited 2 hours ago
Azor Ahai
4,77411842
asked 3 hours ago
Math WizardMath Wizard
1414
edited 2 hours ago
Azor Ahai
4,77411842
asked 3 hours ago
Math WizardMath Wizard
1414
edited 2 hours ago
Azor Ahai
4,77411842
edited 2 hours ago
Azor Ahai
4,77411842
edited 2 hours ago
Azor Ahai
4,77411842
4,77411842
asked 3 hours ago
Math WizardMath Wizard
1414
asked 3 hours ago
Math WizardMath Wizard
1414
asked 3 hours ago
Math WizardMath Wizard
1414
1414
3
Variations of professors' pay is probably proportional to the number of professors...
– Solar Mike
3 hours ago
1
There is huge variation in how it works. What is true one place will be utterly false in another. Some are fully funded by outside sources and don't need to "teach" other than guiding doctoral students. But in many (most?) places the grant recipient can't manage the funds her/himself. An administrative office does and disburses funds when given appropriate documentation. You need to ask the question locally if it is of real concern to you.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
1
Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally. I want mainly how it works in mathematics
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
2
"Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally" - not at all. Advising PhD students is often completely independent of coursework.
– Bryan Krause
2 hours ago
1
At [most] US schools you are told a breakdown of the position's time. E.g., 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. So buying out of half of your classes is not worth half of your salary.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
3
Variations of professors' pay is probably proportional to the number of professors...
– Solar Mike
3 hours ago
1
There is huge variation in how it works. What is true one place will be utterly false in another. Some are fully funded by outside sources and don't need to "teach" other than guiding doctoral students. But in many (most?) places the grant recipient can't manage the funds her/himself. An administrative office does and disburses funds when given appropriate documentation. You need to ask the question locally if it is of real concern to you.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
1
Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally. I want mainly how it works in mathematics
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
2
"Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally" - not at all. Advising PhD students is often completely independent of coursework.
– Bryan Krause
2 hours ago
1
At [most] US schools you are told a breakdown of the position's time. E.g., 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. So buying out of half of your classes is not worth half of your salary.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
3
3
Variations of professors' pay is probably proportional to the number of professors...
– Solar Mike
3 hours ago
Variations of professors' pay is probably proportional to the number of professors...
– Solar Mike
3 hours ago
1
1
There is huge variation in how it works. What is true one place will be utterly false in another. Some are fully funded by outside sources and don't need to "teach" other than guiding doctoral students. But in many (most?) places the grant recipient can't manage the funds her/himself. An administrative office does and disburses funds when given appropriate documentation. You need to ask the question locally if it is of real concern to you.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
There is huge variation in how it works. What is true one place will be utterly false in another. Some are fully funded by outside sources and don't need to "teach" other than guiding doctoral students. But in many (most?) places the grant recipient can't manage the funds her/himself. An administrative office does and disburses funds when given appropriate documentation. You need to ask the question locally if it is of real concern to you.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
1
1
Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally. I want mainly how it works in mathematics
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally. I want mainly how it works in mathematics
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
2
2
"Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally" - not at all. Advising PhD students is often completely independent of coursework.
– Bryan Krause
2 hours ago
"Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally" - not at all. Advising PhD students is often completely independent of coursework.
– Bryan Krause
2 hours ago
1
1
At [most] US schools you are told a breakdown of the position's time. E.g., 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. So buying out of half of your classes is not worth half of your salary.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
At [most] US schools you are told a breakdown of the position's time. E.g., 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. So buying out of half of your classes is not worth half of your salary.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
|
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Nearly every school will have a different policy on buying out of teaching.
In the US, most universities have a breakdown of the position's time. For example, you may be hired to do 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. At some universities, this means the grants must cover the percentage of your salary that you are buying out of. At others, there is a flat buyout price (presumably the amount it costs to pay an instructor). Although, some also have requirements for a minimum number of courses you must teach per year (can't buy out).
answered 2 hours ago
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It is complicated. The amount a grant is charged when a professor "buys out" from a course generally factors in the professor's salary and benefits as well as the replacement teaching costs (salary, benefits, office etc).
The number of courses a professor can buy out of varies. Some departments will let you buy out of all courses, others will require you to teach 1 course a year and some will not let you buy out at all. The exact number can vary year to year depending on the teaching needs of the department, past buy outs, total grant/overhead income, and other factors.
You should not take a TT job expecting to buy out of all teaching and it is not unreasonable to ask during the hiring process what the buy "rules" are.
answered 2 hours ago
StrongBad♦StrongBad
86k24215420
Having just interviewed last year, I agree with StrongBad. Every school I interviewed with had different policies for buying out of teaching. Some were a percentage of your salary, some were flat rates. Few let you buy out of all of them, most had restrictions on how much you can buy out.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
1
@MathWizard TT means tenure-track.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
Yes, tenure-track position requires some teaching and you must teach some courses in order to prove yourself
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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Nearly every school will have a different policy on buying out of teaching.
In the US, most universities have a breakdown of the position's time. For example, you may be hired to do 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. At some universities, this means the grants must cover the percentage of your salary that you are buying out of. At others, there is a flat buyout price (presumably the amount it costs to pay an instructor). Although, some also have requirements for a minimum number of courses you must teach per year (can't buy out).
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Nearly every school will have a different policy on buying out of teaching.
In the US, most universities have a breakdown of the position's time. For example, you may be hired to do 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. At some universities, this means the grants must cover the percentage of your salary that you are buying out of. At others, there is a flat buyout price (presumably the amount it costs to pay an instructor). Although, some also have requirements for a minimum number of courses you must teach per year (can't buy out).
answered 2 hours ago
Austin HenleyAustin Henley
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add a comment |
Nearly every school will have a different policy on buying out of teaching.
In the US, most universities have a breakdown of the position's time. For example, you may be hired to do 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. At some universities, this means the grants must cover the percentage of your salary that you are buying out of. At others, there is a flat buyout price (presumably the amount it costs to pay an instructor). Although, some also have requirements for a minimum number of courses you must teach per year (can't buy out).
answered 2 hours ago
Austin HenleyAustin Henley
16.6k95294
Nearly every school will have a different policy on buying out of teaching.
In the US, most universities have a breakdown of the position's time. For example, you may be hired to do 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. At some universities, this means the grants must cover the percentage of your salary that you are buying out of. At others, there is a flat buyout price (presumably the amount it costs to pay an instructor). Although, some also have requirements for a minimum number of courses you must teach per year (can't buy out).
answered 2 hours ago
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answered 2 hours ago
Austin HenleyAustin Henley
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answered 2 hours ago
Austin HenleyAustin Henley
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answered 2 hours ago
Austin HenleyAustin Henley
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It is complicated. The amount a grant is charged when a professor "buys out" from a course generally factors in the professor's salary and benefits as well as the replacement teaching costs (salary, benefits, office etc).
The number of courses a professor can buy out of varies. Some departments will let you buy out of all courses, others will require you to teach 1 course a year and some will not let you buy out at all. The exact number can vary year to year depending on the teaching needs of the department, past buy outs, total grant/overhead income, and other factors.
You should not take a TT job expecting to buy out of all teaching and it is not unreasonable to ask during the hiring process what the buy "rules" are.
answered 2 hours ago
StrongBad♦StrongBad
86k24215420
Having just interviewed last year, I agree with StrongBad. Every school I interviewed with had different policies for buying out of teaching. Some were a percentage of your salary, some were flat rates. Few let you buy out of all of them, most had restrictions on how much you can buy out.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
1
@MathWizard TT means tenure-track.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
Yes, tenure-track position requires some teaching and you must teach some courses in order to prove yourself
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
add a comment |
It is complicated. The amount a grant is charged when a professor "buys out" from a course generally factors in the professor's salary and benefits as well as the replacement teaching costs (salary, benefits, office etc).
The number of courses a professor can buy out of varies. Some departments will let you buy out of all courses, others will require you to teach 1 course a year and some will not let you buy out at all. The exact number can vary year to year depending on the teaching needs of the department, past buy outs, total grant/overhead income, and other factors.
You should not take a TT job expecting to buy out of all teaching and it is not unreasonable to ask during the hiring process what the buy "rules" are.
answered 2 hours ago
StrongBad♦StrongBad
86k24215420
Having just interviewed last year, I agree with StrongBad. Every school I interviewed with had different policies for buying out of teaching. Some were a percentage of your salary, some were flat rates. Few let you buy out of all of them, most had restrictions on how much you can buy out.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
1
@MathWizard TT means tenure-track.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
Yes, tenure-track position requires some teaching and you must teach some courses in order to prove yourself
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
add a comment |
It is complicated. The amount a grant is charged when a professor "buys out" from a course generally factors in the professor's salary and benefits as well as the replacement teaching costs (salary, benefits, office etc).
The number of courses a professor can buy out of varies. Some departments will let you buy out of all courses, others will require you to teach 1 course a year and some will not let you buy out at all. The exact number can vary year to year depending on the teaching needs of the department, past buy outs, total grant/overhead income, and other factors.
You should not take a TT job expecting to buy out of all teaching and it is not unreasonable to ask during the hiring process what the buy "rules" are.
answered 2 hours ago
StrongBad♦StrongBad
86k24215420
It is complicated. The amount a grant is charged when a professor "buys out" from a course generally factors in the professor's salary and benefits as well as the replacement teaching costs (salary, benefits, office etc).
The number of courses a professor can buy out of varies. Some departments will let you buy out of all courses, others will require you to teach 1 course a year and some will not let you buy out at all. The exact number can vary year to year depending on the teaching needs of the department, past buy outs, total grant/overhead income, and other factors.
You should not take a TT job expecting to buy out of all teaching and it is not unreasonable to ask during the hiring process what the buy "rules" are.
answered 2 hours ago
StrongBad♦StrongBad
86k24215420
answered 2 hours ago
StrongBad♦StrongBad
86k24215420
answered 2 hours ago
StrongBad♦StrongBad
86k24215420
answered 2 hours ago
StrongBad♦StrongBad
86k24215420
86k24215420
Having just interviewed last year, I agree with StrongBad. Every school I interviewed with had different policies for buying out of teaching. Some were a percentage of your salary, some were flat rates. Few let you buy out of all of them, most had restrictions on how much you can buy out.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
1
@MathWizard TT means tenure-track.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
Yes, tenure-track position requires some teaching and you must teach some courses in order to prove yourself
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Having just interviewed last year, I agree with StrongBad. Every school I interviewed with had different policies for buying out of teaching. Some were a percentage of your salary, some were flat rates. Few let you buy out of all of them, most had restrictions on how much you can buy out.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
1
@MathWizard TT means tenure-track.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
Yes, tenure-track position requires some teaching and you must teach some courses in order to prove yourself
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
Having just interviewed last year, I agree with StrongBad. Every school I interviewed with had different policies for buying out of teaching. Some were a percentage of your salary, some were flat rates. Few let you buy out of all of them, most had restrictions on how much you can buy out.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
Having just interviewed last year, I agree with StrongBad. Every school I interviewed with had different policies for buying out of teaching. Some were a percentage of your salary, some were flat rates. Few let you buy out of all of them, most had restrictions on how much you can buy out.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
1
1
@MathWizard TT means tenure-track.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
@MathWizard TT means tenure-track.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago
Yes, tenure-track position requires some teaching and you must teach some courses in order to prove yourself
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
Yes, tenure-track position requires some teaching and you must teach some courses in order to prove yourself
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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Variations of professors' pay is probably proportional to the number of professors...
– Solar Mike
3 hours ago
1
There is huge variation in how it works. What is true one place will be utterly false in another. Some are fully funded by outside sources and don't need to "teach" other than guiding doctoral students. But in many (most?) places the grant recipient can't manage the funds her/himself. An administrative office does and disburses funds when given appropriate documentation. You need to ask the question locally if it is of real concern to you.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
1
Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally. I want mainly how it works in mathematics
– Math Wizard
2 hours ago
2
"Guiding doctoral students also needs teaching (graduate) courses generally" - not at all. Advising PhD students is often completely independent of coursework.
– Bryan Krause
2 hours ago
1
At [most] US schools you are told a breakdown of the position's time. E.g., 60% research, 20% teaching, 20% service. So buying out of half of your classes is not worth half of your salary.
– Austin Henley
2 hours ago