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Everyone says that the Linux subsystem, or WSL, is only supported in Windows 10.
So if this is true, can someone explain what does this, very similar looking, option in Windows 7 mean? What exactly does it enable?
windows unix windows-subsystem-for-linux
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Everyone says that the Linux subsystem, or WSL, is only supported in Windows 10.
So if this is true, can someone explain what does this, very similar looking, option in Windows 7 mean? What exactly does it enable?
windows unix windows-subsystem-for-linux
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Note that, contrary to the question title, the Windows 7 screenshot does not say "Linux subsystem".
– JdeBP
yesterday
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Unix and Linux are different. And to take a screenshot just use use the PrintScreen key or the snipping tool instead of capturing such a terrible photo
– phuclv
yesterday
@JdeBP: fixed. Now the title matches the win7 screen photo being asked about, not the Win10 screenshot it's being compared against. :P
– Peter Cordes
2 hours ago
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Everyone says that the Linux subsystem, or WSL, is only supported in Windows 10.
So if this is true, can someone explain what does this, very similar looking, option in Windows 7 mean? What exactly does it enable?
windows unix windows-subsystem-for-linux
Everyone says that the Linux subsystem, or WSL, is only supported in Windows 10.
So if this is true, can someone explain what does this, very similar looking, option in Windows 7 mean? What exactly does it enable?
windows unix windows-subsystem-for-linux
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Note that, contrary to the question title, the Windows 7 screenshot does not say "Linux subsystem".
– JdeBP
yesterday
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Unix and Linux are different. And to take a screenshot just use use the PrintScreen key or the snipping tool instead of capturing such a terrible photo
– phuclv
yesterday
@JdeBP: fixed. Now the title matches the win7 screen photo being asked about, not the Win10 screenshot it's being compared against. :P
– Peter Cordes
2 hours ago
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Note that, contrary to the question title, the Windows 7 screenshot does not say "Linux subsystem".
– JdeBP
yesterday
15
Unix and Linux are different. And to take a screenshot just use use the PrintScreen key or the snipping tool instead of capturing such a terrible photo
– phuclv
yesterday
@JdeBP: fixed. Now the title matches the win7 screen photo being asked about, not the Win10 screenshot it's being compared against. :P
– Peter Cordes
2 hours ago
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Note that, contrary to the question title, the Windows 7 screenshot does not say "Linux subsystem".
– JdeBP
yesterday
Note that, contrary to the question title, the Windows 7 screenshot does not say "Linux subsystem".
– JdeBP
yesterday
15
15
Unix and Linux are different. And to take a screenshot just use use the PrintScreen key or the snipping tool instead of capturing such a terrible photo
– phuclv
yesterday
Unix and Linux are different. And to take a screenshot just use use the PrintScreen key or the snipping tool instead of capturing such a terrible photo
– phuclv
yesterday
@JdeBP: fixed. Now the title matches the win7 screen photo being asked about, not the Win10 screenshot it's being compared against. :P
– Peter Cordes
2 hours ago
@JdeBP: fixed. Now the title matches the win7 screen photo being asked about, not the Win10 screenshot it's being compared against. :P
– Peter Cordes
2 hours ago
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In the 1980s the US federal government required that certain types of government purchases be POSIX-compliant, therefore MS had to include a POSIX subsystem in Windows
Microsoft POSIX subsystem is one of four subsystems shipped with the first versions of Windows NT. (The other three being the Win32 subsystem which provided the primary programming API for Windows NT, plus the OS/2 and security subsystems.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem
That was one of the reasons of POSIX filename support in NTFS, and the existence of the registry key HKLMSYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlSession ManagerkernelObCaseInsensitive
for compatibility with case-sensitive file names in POSIX subsystem and on the network
- How do you make Windows 7 fully case-sensitive with respect to the filesystem?
- Enable case sensitive behavior with Windows XP and Interix Subsystem or SFU
However the POSIX subsystem only implements POSIX.1 which doesn't include command line tools. In Windows XP / Windows Server 2003 it has been replaced with Windows Services for UNIX (SFU) which is what you see. It's much more powerful and was later renamed to Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications in Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications (SUA) is a source-compatibility subsystem for compiling and running custom UNIX-based applications on a computer running a Microsoft® Windows® server-class operating system. You can make your UNIX applications fully interoperable with Windows in SUA with little or no change to your original source code.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications
SUA was removed in Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012
Unlike WSL in Windows 10, those subsystems are not meant for running Linux ELF executable files directly, therefore you'll have to recompile for that subsystem if you want to run under it
Further reading:
- POSIX and UNIX Support in Windows
- Services for UNIX – Interoperability
- Features Removed or Deprecated in Windows Server 2012
Good answer, but unless I’m mistaken you haven’t actually said what the SFU is for - that is, mounting NFS shares etc - only what it can’t be used for.
– Darren
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Everyone says, that Linux subsystem,or WSL, IS only supported in windows 10.
Everyone is absolutely correct. Windows Linux Subsystem does not exist and cannot be enabled/installed on Windows 7.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications has nothing to do with the Windows 10 feature. It was also known as Interix before it was discontinued with the release of Windows 10.
Interix was an optional, POSIX-conformant Unix subsystem for Windows NT operating systems. Interix was a component of Windows Services for UNIX, and a superset of the Microsoft POSIX subsystem.
The tools that were supported were recompiled versions. The tools contained within a WSL instance are the same tools that run on Linux.
Unlike in the past the actual Linux distribution, is compiled into a UWP application, which interfaces with the Linux Subsystem allowing virtually any Linux distribution to now be compatible.
There is an inherited limitation dealing with Linux kernel level drivers (they are not supported) so
all devices interface indirectly with the Windows device driver.
Source: Interix
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In the 1980s the US federal government required that certain types of government purchases be POSIX-compliant, therefore MS had to include a POSIX subsystem in Windows
Microsoft POSIX subsystem is one of four subsystems shipped with the first versions of Windows NT. (The other three being the Win32 subsystem which provided the primary programming API for Windows NT, plus the OS/2 and security subsystems.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem
That was one of the reasons of POSIX filename support in NTFS, and the existence of the registry key HKLMSYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlSession ManagerkernelObCaseInsensitive
for compatibility with case-sensitive file names in POSIX subsystem and on the network
- How do you make Windows 7 fully case-sensitive with respect to the filesystem?
- Enable case sensitive behavior with Windows XP and Interix Subsystem or SFU
However the POSIX subsystem only implements POSIX.1 which doesn't include command line tools. In Windows XP / Windows Server 2003 it has been replaced with Windows Services for UNIX (SFU) which is what you see. It's much more powerful and was later renamed to Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications in Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications (SUA) is a source-compatibility subsystem for compiling and running custom UNIX-based applications on a computer running a Microsoft® Windows® server-class operating system. You can make your UNIX applications fully interoperable with Windows in SUA with little or no change to your original source code.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications
SUA was removed in Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012
Unlike WSL in Windows 10, those subsystems are not meant for running Linux ELF executable files directly, therefore you'll have to recompile for that subsystem if you want to run under it
Further reading:
- POSIX and UNIX Support in Windows
- Services for UNIX – Interoperability
- Features Removed or Deprecated in Windows Server 2012
Good answer, but unless I’m mistaken you haven’t actually said what the SFU is for - that is, mounting NFS shares etc - only what it can’t be used for.
– Darren
1 hour ago
add a comment |
In the 1980s the US federal government required that certain types of government purchases be POSIX-compliant, therefore MS had to include a POSIX subsystem in Windows
Microsoft POSIX subsystem is one of four subsystems shipped with the first versions of Windows NT. (The other three being the Win32 subsystem which provided the primary programming API for Windows NT, plus the OS/2 and security subsystems.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem
That was one of the reasons of POSIX filename support in NTFS, and the existence of the registry key HKLMSYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlSession ManagerkernelObCaseInsensitive
for compatibility with case-sensitive file names in POSIX subsystem and on the network
- How do you make Windows 7 fully case-sensitive with respect to the filesystem?
- Enable case sensitive behavior with Windows XP and Interix Subsystem or SFU
However the POSIX subsystem only implements POSIX.1 which doesn't include command line tools. In Windows XP / Windows Server 2003 it has been replaced with Windows Services for UNIX (SFU) which is what you see. It's much more powerful and was later renamed to Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications in Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications (SUA) is a source-compatibility subsystem for compiling and running custom UNIX-based applications on a computer running a Microsoft® Windows® server-class operating system. You can make your UNIX applications fully interoperable with Windows in SUA with little or no change to your original source code.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications
SUA was removed in Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012
Unlike WSL in Windows 10, those subsystems are not meant for running Linux ELF executable files directly, therefore you'll have to recompile for that subsystem if you want to run under it
Further reading:
- POSIX and UNIX Support in Windows
- Services for UNIX – Interoperability
- Features Removed or Deprecated in Windows Server 2012
Good answer, but unless I’m mistaken you haven’t actually said what the SFU is for - that is, mounting NFS shares etc - only what it can’t be used for.
– Darren
1 hour ago
add a comment |
In the 1980s the US federal government required that certain types of government purchases be POSIX-compliant, therefore MS had to include a POSIX subsystem in Windows
Microsoft POSIX subsystem is one of four subsystems shipped with the first versions of Windows NT. (The other three being the Win32 subsystem which provided the primary programming API for Windows NT, plus the OS/2 and security subsystems.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem
That was one of the reasons of POSIX filename support in NTFS, and the existence of the registry key HKLMSYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlSession ManagerkernelObCaseInsensitive
for compatibility with case-sensitive file names in POSIX subsystem and on the network
- How do you make Windows 7 fully case-sensitive with respect to the filesystem?
- Enable case sensitive behavior with Windows XP and Interix Subsystem or SFU
However the POSIX subsystem only implements POSIX.1 which doesn't include command line tools. In Windows XP / Windows Server 2003 it has been replaced with Windows Services for UNIX (SFU) which is what you see. It's much more powerful and was later renamed to Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications in Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications (SUA) is a source-compatibility subsystem for compiling and running custom UNIX-based applications on a computer running a Microsoft® Windows® server-class operating system. You can make your UNIX applications fully interoperable with Windows in SUA with little or no change to your original source code.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications
SUA was removed in Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012
Unlike WSL in Windows 10, those subsystems are not meant for running Linux ELF executable files directly, therefore you'll have to recompile for that subsystem if you want to run under it
Further reading:
- POSIX and UNIX Support in Windows
- Services for UNIX – Interoperability
- Features Removed or Deprecated in Windows Server 2012
In the 1980s the US federal government required that certain types of government purchases be POSIX-compliant, therefore MS had to include a POSIX subsystem in Windows
Microsoft POSIX subsystem is one of four subsystems shipped with the first versions of Windows NT. (The other three being the Win32 subsystem which provided the primary programming API for Windows NT, plus the OS/2 and security subsystems.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem
That was one of the reasons of POSIX filename support in NTFS, and the existence of the registry key HKLMSYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlSession ManagerkernelObCaseInsensitive
for compatibility with case-sensitive file names in POSIX subsystem and on the network
- How do you make Windows 7 fully case-sensitive with respect to the filesystem?
- Enable case sensitive behavior with Windows XP and Interix Subsystem or SFU
However the POSIX subsystem only implements POSIX.1 which doesn't include command line tools. In Windows XP / Windows Server 2003 it has been replaced with Windows Services for UNIX (SFU) which is what you see. It's much more powerful and was later renamed to Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications in Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications (SUA) is a source-compatibility subsystem for compiling and running custom UNIX-based applications on a computer running a Microsoft® Windows® server-class operating system. You can make your UNIX applications fully interoperable with Windows in SUA with little or no change to your original source code.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications
SUA was removed in Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012
Unlike WSL in Windows 10, those subsystems are not meant for running Linux ELF executable files directly, therefore you'll have to recompile for that subsystem if you want to run under it
Further reading:
- POSIX and UNIX Support in Windows
- Services for UNIX – Interoperability
- Features Removed or Deprecated in Windows Server 2012
edited 3 hours ago
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Good answer, but unless I’m mistaken you haven’t actually said what the SFU is for - that is, mounting NFS shares etc - only what it can’t be used for.
– Darren
1 hour ago
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Good answer, but unless I’m mistaken you haven’t actually said what the SFU is for - that is, mounting NFS shares etc - only what it can’t be used for.
– Darren
1 hour ago
Good answer, but unless I’m mistaken you haven’t actually said what the SFU is for - that is, mounting NFS shares etc - only what it can’t be used for.
– Darren
1 hour ago
Good answer, but unless I’m mistaken you haven’t actually said what the SFU is for - that is, mounting NFS shares etc - only what it can’t be used for.
– Darren
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Everyone says, that Linux subsystem,or WSL, IS only supported in windows 10.
Everyone is absolutely correct. Windows Linux Subsystem does not exist and cannot be enabled/installed on Windows 7.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications has nothing to do with the Windows 10 feature. It was also known as Interix before it was discontinued with the release of Windows 10.
Interix was an optional, POSIX-conformant Unix subsystem for Windows NT operating systems. Interix was a component of Windows Services for UNIX, and a superset of the Microsoft POSIX subsystem.
The tools that were supported were recompiled versions. The tools contained within a WSL instance are the same tools that run on Linux.
Unlike in the past the actual Linux distribution, is compiled into a UWP application, which interfaces with the Linux Subsystem allowing virtually any Linux distribution to now be compatible.
There is an inherited limitation dealing with Linux kernel level drivers (they are not supported) so
all devices interface indirectly with the Windows device driver.
Source: Interix
add a comment |
Everyone says, that Linux subsystem,or WSL, IS only supported in windows 10.
Everyone is absolutely correct. Windows Linux Subsystem does not exist and cannot be enabled/installed on Windows 7.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications has nothing to do with the Windows 10 feature. It was also known as Interix before it was discontinued with the release of Windows 10.
Interix was an optional, POSIX-conformant Unix subsystem for Windows NT operating systems. Interix was a component of Windows Services for UNIX, and a superset of the Microsoft POSIX subsystem.
The tools that were supported were recompiled versions. The tools contained within a WSL instance are the same tools that run on Linux.
Unlike in the past the actual Linux distribution, is compiled into a UWP application, which interfaces with the Linux Subsystem allowing virtually any Linux distribution to now be compatible.
There is an inherited limitation dealing with Linux kernel level drivers (they are not supported) so
all devices interface indirectly with the Windows device driver.
Source: Interix
add a comment |
Everyone says, that Linux subsystem,or WSL, IS only supported in windows 10.
Everyone is absolutely correct. Windows Linux Subsystem does not exist and cannot be enabled/installed on Windows 7.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications has nothing to do with the Windows 10 feature. It was also known as Interix before it was discontinued with the release of Windows 10.
Interix was an optional, POSIX-conformant Unix subsystem for Windows NT operating systems. Interix was a component of Windows Services for UNIX, and a superset of the Microsoft POSIX subsystem.
The tools that were supported were recompiled versions. The tools contained within a WSL instance are the same tools that run on Linux.
Unlike in the past the actual Linux distribution, is compiled into a UWP application, which interfaces with the Linux Subsystem allowing virtually any Linux distribution to now be compatible.
There is an inherited limitation dealing with Linux kernel level drivers (they are not supported) so
all devices interface indirectly with the Windows device driver.
Source: Interix
Everyone says, that Linux subsystem,or WSL, IS only supported in windows 10.
Everyone is absolutely correct. Windows Linux Subsystem does not exist and cannot be enabled/installed on Windows 7.
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications has nothing to do with the Windows 10 feature. It was also known as Interix before it was discontinued with the release of Windows 10.
Interix was an optional, POSIX-conformant Unix subsystem for Windows NT operating systems. Interix was a component of Windows Services for UNIX, and a superset of the Microsoft POSIX subsystem.
The tools that were supported were recompiled versions. The tools contained within a WSL instance are the same tools that run on Linux.
Unlike in the past the actual Linux distribution, is compiled into a UWP application, which interfaces with the Linux Subsystem allowing virtually any Linux distribution to now be compatible.
There is an inherited limitation dealing with Linux kernel level drivers (they are not supported) so
all devices interface indirectly with the Windows device driver.
Source: Interix
edited yesterday
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Note that, contrary to the question title, the Windows 7 screenshot does not say "Linux subsystem".
– JdeBP
yesterday
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Unix and Linux are different. And to take a screenshot just use use the PrintScreen key or the snipping tool instead of capturing such a terrible photo
– phuclv
yesterday
@JdeBP: fixed. Now the title matches the win7 screen photo being asked about, not the Win10 screenshot it's being compared against. :P
– Peter Cordes
2 hours ago