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Can Pao de Queijo, and similar foods, be kosher for Passover?



Pesach/Passover
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)
Best answer contest: Second quarter of 5779
To celebrate Mi Yodeya's tenth birthday, let's divide and conquer the entire…Is Rum Kosher for Passover?Is Frank's hot sauce kosher for passover?Is Ethanol Mixed Gasoline Kosher for PassoverIs Patron Silver tequila kosher for Passover?Is certified gluten-free kosher for Passover?Looking for hechshered plain kefir Kosher for PassoverAre Hops kosher for passover without certification?Why isn't Amaretto Kosher for Passover?What brand yogurt is kosher for passover?Do all food products for Passover need to be specifically certified “kosher for Passover”?










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We're planning an "alternative" Passover, and are looking into some nontraditional foods that could be kosher for Passover. One that came up in discussion was Pao de Queijo, or Brazillan cheese biscuits. These contain cheese, tapioca flour, and eggs.



Since they have no grain at all in them, and the only leavening is eggs -- not unlike "passover rolls" -- it seems like they ought to be permitted. I didn't see them when I attended a Seder in Brazil, though, although that could have been because that Seder was very German-heritage.



So, would Pao de Queijo be permitted or not? Does it depend on whether you're Ashkenaz or Sephardic?










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    The answer is right, but just a note: "the only leavening is eggs" isn't relevant. The only questions are whether it contains grain (wheat barley rye oats spelt, with a question mark on the oats) and whether it contains any of the other things Ashkenazim are strict about. The leavening agent doesn't matter, and there's such a thing as Passover baking powder.

    – Heshy
    2 hours ago











  • Heshy: really? Huh. I'd thought there would maybe be some restrictions on yeast, but I guess no?

    – FuzzyChef
    2 hours ago











  • @Fuzzy 4 cups of wine are drunk at the Seder. Wine is grapes plus yeast. It's not just fermentation but fermentation of grain that's relevant.

    – Double AA
    35 mins ago
















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We're planning an "alternative" Passover, and are looking into some nontraditional foods that could be kosher for Passover. One that came up in discussion was Pao de Queijo, or Brazillan cheese biscuits. These contain cheese, tapioca flour, and eggs.



Since they have no grain at all in them, and the only leavening is eggs -- not unlike "passover rolls" -- it seems like they ought to be permitted. I didn't see them when I attended a Seder in Brazil, though, although that could have been because that Seder was very German-heritage.



So, would Pao de Queijo be permitted or not? Does it depend on whether you're Ashkenaz or Sephardic?










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  • 1





    The answer is right, but just a note: "the only leavening is eggs" isn't relevant. The only questions are whether it contains grain (wheat barley rye oats spelt, with a question mark on the oats) and whether it contains any of the other things Ashkenazim are strict about. The leavening agent doesn't matter, and there's such a thing as Passover baking powder.

    – Heshy
    2 hours ago











  • Heshy: really? Huh. I'd thought there would maybe be some restrictions on yeast, but I guess no?

    – FuzzyChef
    2 hours ago











  • @Fuzzy 4 cups of wine are drunk at the Seder. Wine is grapes plus yeast. It's not just fermentation but fermentation of grain that's relevant.

    – Double AA
    35 mins ago














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We're planning an "alternative" Passover, and are looking into some nontraditional foods that could be kosher for Passover. One that came up in discussion was Pao de Queijo, or Brazillan cheese biscuits. These contain cheese, tapioca flour, and eggs.



Since they have no grain at all in them, and the only leavening is eggs -- not unlike "passover rolls" -- it seems like they ought to be permitted. I didn't see them when I attended a Seder in Brazil, though, although that could have been because that Seder was very German-heritage.



So, would Pao de Queijo be permitted or not? Does it depend on whether you're Ashkenaz or Sephardic?










share|improve this question









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We're planning an "alternative" Passover, and are looking into some nontraditional foods that could be kosher for Passover. One that came up in discussion was Pao de Queijo, or Brazillan cheese biscuits. These contain cheese, tapioca flour, and eggs.



Since they have no grain at all in them, and the only leavening is eggs -- not unlike "passover rolls" -- it seems like they ought to be permitted. I didn't see them when I attended a Seder in Brazil, though, although that could have been because that Seder was very German-heritage.



So, would Pao de Queijo be permitted or not? Does it depend on whether you're Ashkenaz or Sephardic?







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  • 1





    The answer is right, but just a note: "the only leavening is eggs" isn't relevant. The only questions are whether it contains grain (wheat barley rye oats spelt, with a question mark on the oats) and whether it contains any of the other things Ashkenazim are strict about. The leavening agent doesn't matter, and there's such a thing as Passover baking powder.

    – Heshy
    2 hours ago











  • Heshy: really? Huh. I'd thought there would maybe be some restrictions on yeast, but I guess no?

    – FuzzyChef
    2 hours ago











  • @Fuzzy 4 cups of wine are drunk at the Seder. Wine is grapes plus yeast. It's not just fermentation but fermentation of grain that's relevant.

    – Double AA
    35 mins ago













  • 1





    The answer is right, but just a note: "the only leavening is eggs" isn't relevant. The only questions are whether it contains grain (wheat barley rye oats spelt, with a question mark on the oats) and whether it contains any of the other things Ashkenazim are strict about. The leavening agent doesn't matter, and there's such a thing as Passover baking powder.

    – Heshy
    2 hours ago











  • Heshy: really? Huh. I'd thought there would maybe be some restrictions on yeast, but I guess no?

    – FuzzyChef
    2 hours ago











  • @Fuzzy 4 cups of wine are drunk at the Seder. Wine is grapes plus yeast. It's not just fermentation but fermentation of grain that's relevant.

    – Double AA
    35 mins ago








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1





The answer is right, but just a note: "the only leavening is eggs" isn't relevant. The only questions are whether it contains grain (wheat barley rye oats spelt, with a question mark on the oats) and whether it contains any of the other things Ashkenazim are strict about. The leavening agent doesn't matter, and there's such a thing as Passover baking powder.

– Heshy
2 hours ago





The answer is right, but just a note: "the only leavening is eggs" isn't relevant. The only questions are whether it contains grain (wheat barley rye oats spelt, with a question mark on the oats) and whether it contains any of the other things Ashkenazim are strict about. The leavening agent doesn't matter, and there's such a thing as Passover baking powder.

– Heshy
2 hours ago













Heshy: really? Huh. I'd thought there would maybe be some restrictions on yeast, but I guess no?

– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago





Heshy: really? Huh. I'd thought there would maybe be some restrictions on yeast, but I guess no?

– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago













@Fuzzy 4 cups of wine are drunk at the Seder. Wine is grapes plus yeast. It's not just fermentation but fermentation of grain that's relevant.

– Double AA
35 mins ago






@Fuzzy 4 cups of wine are drunk at the Seder. Wine is grapes plus yeast. It's not just fermentation but fermentation of grain that's relevant.

– Double AA
35 mins ago











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As always, CYLOR but the answer would seem to be yes.



Regarding Tapioca, OUKosher.org writes:




Similarly, potatoes and tapioca are not considered kitniyot. Although today, they are turned into starch and are the basis for most Passover cakes and cookies, they are permitted because, historically, the minhag was to accept them.




Also, a popular Kosher baker writes on her blog:




When I recently learned that Brazilian cheese bread, pao de queijo, is gluten-free, and made with tapioca flour, which is permitted on Passover, I cheered at the thought of “bread” and “Passover” married together. Karina herself was intrigued, because she never ate the cheese bread during the holiday. She said, “I’m sure the older generation could never imagine eating anything bread-like during Passover.




One is a reliable source, and the other is more of "heard from someone" bit would seem to be ok.

As there is no kitniyot in them, would be ok for both Sefardim and Ashkenzim.



But again just to be 100% safe- CYLOR






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    Also, definitely make this at home rather than buying it at your local Brazilian bakery, they could very easily mix some wheat flour in for texture's sake (beyond the obvious risk of chametz cross-contamination)

    – Josh K
    2 hours ago







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    I would make it at home (among other things, it's way easy to make), but since I live in a town with more than one gluten-free bakery, I could probably find some that were OK.

    – FuzzyChef
    2 hours ago


















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As always, CYLOR but the answer would seem to be yes.



Regarding Tapioca, OUKosher.org writes:




Similarly, potatoes and tapioca are not considered kitniyot. Although today, they are turned into starch and are the basis for most Passover cakes and cookies, they are permitted because, historically, the minhag was to accept them.




Also, a popular Kosher baker writes on her blog:




When I recently learned that Brazilian cheese bread, pao de queijo, is gluten-free, and made with tapioca flour, which is permitted on Passover, I cheered at the thought of “bread” and “Passover” married together. Karina herself was intrigued, because she never ate the cheese bread during the holiday. She said, “I’m sure the older generation could never imagine eating anything bread-like during Passover.




One is a reliable source, and the other is more of "heard from someone" bit would seem to be ok.

As there is no kitniyot in them, would be ok for both Sefardim and Ashkenzim.



But again just to be 100% safe- CYLOR






share|improve this answer


















  • 3





    Also, definitely make this at home rather than buying it at your local Brazilian bakery, they could very easily mix some wheat flour in for texture's sake (beyond the obvious risk of chametz cross-contamination)

    – Josh K
    2 hours ago







  • 1





    I would make it at home (among other things, it's way easy to make), but since I live in a town with more than one gluten-free bakery, I could probably find some that were OK.

    – FuzzyChef
    2 hours ago















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As always, CYLOR but the answer would seem to be yes.



Regarding Tapioca, OUKosher.org writes:




Similarly, potatoes and tapioca are not considered kitniyot. Although today, they are turned into starch and are the basis for most Passover cakes and cookies, they are permitted because, historically, the minhag was to accept them.




Also, a popular Kosher baker writes on her blog:




When I recently learned that Brazilian cheese bread, pao de queijo, is gluten-free, and made with tapioca flour, which is permitted on Passover, I cheered at the thought of “bread” and “Passover” married together. Karina herself was intrigued, because she never ate the cheese bread during the holiday. She said, “I’m sure the older generation could never imagine eating anything bread-like during Passover.




One is a reliable source, and the other is more of "heard from someone" bit would seem to be ok.

As there is no kitniyot in them, would be ok for both Sefardim and Ashkenzim.



But again just to be 100% safe- CYLOR






share|improve this answer


















  • 3





    Also, definitely make this at home rather than buying it at your local Brazilian bakery, they could very easily mix some wheat flour in for texture's sake (beyond the obvious risk of chametz cross-contamination)

    – Josh K
    2 hours ago







  • 1





    I would make it at home (among other things, it's way easy to make), but since I live in a town with more than one gluten-free bakery, I could probably find some that were OK.

    – FuzzyChef
    2 hours ago













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As always, CYLOR but the answer would seem to be yes.



Regarding Tapioca, OUKosher.org writes:




Similarly, potatoes and tapioca are not considered kitniyot. Although today, they are turned into starch and are the basis for most Passover cakes and cookies, they are permitted because, historically, the minhag was to accept them.




Also, a popular Kosher baker writes on her blog:




When I recently learned that Brazilian cheese bread, pao de queijo, is gluten-free, and made with tapioca flour, which is permitted on Passover, I cheered at the thought of “bread” and “Passover” married together. Karina herself was intrigued, because she never ate the cheese bread during the holiday. She said, “I’m sure the older generation could never imagine eating anything bread-like during Passover.




One is a reliable source, and the other is more of "heard from someone" bit would seem to be ok.

As there is no kitniyot in them, would be ok for both Sefardim and Ashkenzim.



But again just to be 100% safe- CYLOR






share|improve this answer













As always, CYLOR but the answer would seem to be yes.



Regarding Tapioca, OUKosher.org writes:




Similarly, potatoes and tapioca are not considered kitniyot. Although today, they are turned into starch and are the basis for most Passover cakes and cookies, they are permitted because, historically, the minhag was to accept them.




Also, a popular Kosher baker writes on her blog:




When I recently learned that Brazilian cheese bread, pao de queijo, is gluten-free, and made with tapioca flour, which is permitted on Passover, I cheered at the thought of “bread” and “Passover” married together. Karina herself was intrigued, because she never ate the cheese bread during the holiday. She said, “I’m sure the older generation could never imagine eating anything bread-like during Passover.




One is a reliable source, and the other is more of "heard from someone" bit would seem to be ok.

As there is no kitniyot in them, would be ok for both Sefardim and Ashkenzim.



But again just to be 100% safe- CYLOR







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    Also, definitely make this at home rather than buying it at your local Brazilian bakery, they could very easily mix some wheat flour in for texture's sake (beyond the obvious risk of chametz cross-contamination)

    – Josh K
    2 hours ago







  • 1





    I would make it at home (among other things, it's way easy to make), but since I live in a town with more than one gluten-free bakery, I could probably find some that were OK.

    – FuzzyChef
    2 hours ago












  • 3





    Also, definitely make this at home rather than buying it at your local Brazilian bakery, they could very easily mix some wheat flour in for texture's sake (beyond the obvious risk of chametz cross-contamination)

    – Josh K
    2 hours ago







  • 1





    I would make it at home (among other things, it's way easy to make), but since I live in a town with more than one gluten-free bakery, I could probably find some that were OK.

    – FuzzyChef
    2 hours ago







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3





Also, definitely make this at home rather than buying it at your local Brazilian bakery, they could very easily mix some wheat flour in for texture's sake (beyond the obvious risk of chametz cross-contamination)

– Josh K
2 hours ago






Also, definitely make this at home rather than buying it at your local Brazilian bakery, they could very easily mix some wheat flour in for texture's sake (beyond the obvious risk of chametz cross-contamination)

– Josh K
2 hours ago





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I would make it at home (among other things, it's way easy to make), but since I live in a town with more than one gluten-free bakery, I could probably find some that were OK.

– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago





I would make it at home (among other things, it's way easy to make), but since I live in a town with more than one gluten-free bakery, I could probably find some that were OK.

– FuzzyChef
2 hours ago



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