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Increase size of symbol intercal when in superscript position


What is the meaning of the name of the intercal symbol?Position of superscript when superscriptd item has hat over itWhy does widehat behave differently if I insert hspace0pt?More aesthetic (perhaps shallower) superscript check symbolsize and location of cube root symbolcompute position of each symbolHow can I include a symbol with correct size and relative position without directly using it?Changing symbol size when used as subscriptBack to use the original forall symbolUgly horizontal spacing with some symbol-subscript/superscript combinationsHow to add superscript on summation symbol













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Starting from this code



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb
usepackagenewtxtext
usepackage[lite]mtpro2
begindocument
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $
enddocument


with this output



enter image description here



I'd like to move the intercal command a little higher and to the left in the direction indicated by the arrow. But does LaTeX have a direct command to move the symbol up or down or do I need to use specific macros? What could be the ways to have an adequate and beautiful way to write this formula?










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    I haven't the fonts but intercal is essentially a lowered sans serif T so ^mathsfT might look better

    – David Carlisle
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @DavidCarlisle Before I have used always top. The last command is very thin and that's because I bet on intercal.

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    Is ^intercal supposed to denote the transpose operator? Just curious.

    – Mico
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @Mico I wrote an essay on that :-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/435328/…

    – David Carlisle
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @DavidCarlisle +1 for the history :-)

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago















3















Starting from this code



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb
usepackagenewtxtext
usepackage[lite]mtpro2
begindocument
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $
enddocument


with this output



enter image description here



I'd like to move the intercal command a little higher and to the left in the direction indicated by the arrow. But does LaTeX have a direct command to move the symbol up or down or do I need to use specific macros? What could be the ways to have an adequate and beautiful way to write this formula?










share|improve this question



















  • 2





    I haven't the fonts but intercal is essentially a lowered sans serif T so ^mathsfT might look better

    – David Carlisle
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @DavidCarlisle Before I have used always top. The last command is very thin and that's because I bet on intercal.

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    Is ^intercal supposed to denote the transpose operator? Just curious.

    – Mico
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @Mico I wrote an essay on that :-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/435328/…

    – David Carlisle
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @DavidCarlisle +1 for the history :-)

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago













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Starting from this code



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb
usepackagenewtxtext
usepackage[lite]mtpro2
begindocument
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $
enddocument


with this output



enter image description here



I'd like to move the intercal command a little higher and to the left in the direction indicated by the arrow. But does LaTeX have a direct command to move the symbol up or down or do I need to use specific macros? What could be the ways to have an adequate and beautiful way to write this formula?










share|improve this question
















Starting from this code



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb
usepackagenewtxtext
usepackage[lite]mtpro2
begindocument
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $
enddocument


with this output



enter image description here



I'd like to move the intercal command a little higher and to the left in the direction indicated by the arrow. But does LaTeX have a direct command to move the symbol up or down or do I need to use specific macros? What could be the ways to have an adequate and beautiful way to write this formula?







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  • 2





    I haven't the fonts but intercal is essentially a lowered sans serif T so ^mathsfT might look better

    – David Carlisle
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @DavidCarlisle Before I have used always top. The last command is very thin and that's because I bet on intercal.

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    Is ^intercal supposed to denote the transpose operator? Just curious.

    – Mico
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @Mico I wrote an essay on that :-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/435328/…

    – David Carlisle
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @DavidCarlisle +1 for the history :-)

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago












  • 2





    I haven't the fonts but intercal is essentially a lowered sans serif T so ^mathsfT might look better

    – David Carlisle
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @DavidCarlisle Before I have used always top. The last command is very thin and that's because I bet on intercal.

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    Is ^intercal supposed to denote the transpose operator? Just curious.

    – Mico
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @Mico I wrote an essay on that :-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/435328/…

    – David Carlisle
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @DavidCarlisle +1 for the history :-)

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago







2




2





I haven't the fonts but intercal is essentially a lowered sans serif T so ^mathsfT might look better

– David Carlisle
14 hours ago





I haven't the fonts but intercal is essentially a lowered sans serif T so ^mathsfT might look better

– David Carlisle
14 hours ago




1




1





@DavidCarlisle Before I have used always top. The last command is very thin and that's because I bet on intercal.

– Sebastiano
14 hours ago





@DavidCarlisle Before I have used always top. The last command is very thin and that's because I bet on intercal.

– Sebastiano
14 hours ago




1




1





Is ^intercal supposed to denote the transpose operator? Just curious.

– Mico
14 hours ago





Is ^intercal supposed to denote the transpose operator? Just curious.

– Mico
14 hours ago




1




1





@Mico I wrote an essay on that :-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/435328/…

– David Carlisle
14 hours ago





@Mico I wrote an essay on that :-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/435328/…

– David Carlisle
14 hours ago




1




1





@DavidCarlisle +1 for the history :-)

– Sebastiano
14 hours ago





@DavidCarlisle +1 for the history :-)

– Sebastiano
14 hours ago










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Combining David's suggestion with Sebastiano's requirement...



I use mathsfT as the core of the revised intercal (you can rename it something else if you don't want to overwrite it), but then to make it smaller, I use it in cramped, superscripted form (revision 1). Alternately, I just set it in scriptscriptstyle, which lowers its elevation a bit, while still keeping it higher than the original intercal (revision 2).



Original, then two revisions.



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb
usepackagenewtxtext
usepackagenewtxmath%[lite]mtpro2
begindocument
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalcramped^mathsfT
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalmathsfscriptscriptstyle T
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $
enddocument


enter image description here






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  • Great Steven. But what is cramped?

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago












  • @Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago











  • Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)

    – Sebastiano
    11 hours ago


















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Here's another variation on David's idea to use mathsfT instead of either intercal or top. The macro tp (short for "transpose", naturally) employs scriptscriptstyle math mode. The tp macro takes an optional argument: a scalar number, to indicate how many mu the "T" should be shifted to the left. The ability to fine-tune the horizontal position can come in handy if you're dealing with letters, such as L, which have no component in the upper-right quadrant. (The default amount of left-shift is 3, as in -3mu. Aside: mkern-3mu is the same as !.)



enter image description here



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb,newtxtext
usepackage[lite]mtpro2
newcommandbmcAboldsymbolmathcal A'
newcommandtp[1][3]^^mkern-#1mumathsfT
begindocument
$intercal$ $top$ $mathsfT$

medskip
begintabular@ll
$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \
$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$ & verb+top+ \
$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcAtp Ltp[6]$ & verb+tp+
endtabular
enddocument





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Combining David's suggestion with Sebastiano's requirement...



I use mathsfT as the core of the revised intercal (you can rename it something else if you don't want to overwrite it), but then to make it smaller, I use it in cramped, superscripted form (revision 1). Alternately, I just set it in scriptscriptstyle, which lowers its elevation a bit, while still keeping it higher than the original intercal (revision 2).



Original, then two revisions.



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb
usepackagenewtxtext
usepackagenewtxmath%[lite]mtpro2
begindocument
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalcramped^mathsfT
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalmathsfscriptscriptstyle T
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $
enddocument


enter image description here






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  • Great Steven. But what is cramped?

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago












  • @Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago











  • Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)

    – Sebastiano
    11 hours ago















5














Combining David's suggestion with Sebastiano's requirement...



I use mathsfT as the core of the revised intercal (you can rename it something else if you don't want to overwrite it), but then to make it smaller, I use it in cramped, superscripted form (revision 1). Alternately, I just set it in scriptscriptstyle, which lowers its elevation a bit, while still keeping it higher than the original intercal (revision 2).



Original, then two revisions.



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb
usepackagenewtxtext
usepackagenewtxmath%[lite]mtpro2
begindocument
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalcramped^mathsfT
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalmathsfscriptscriptstyle T
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $
enddocument


enter image description here






share|improve this answer

























  • Great Steven. But what is cramped?

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago












  • @Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago











  • Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)

    – Sebastiano
    11 hours ago













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5








5







Combining David's suggestion with Sebastiano's requirement...



I use mathsfT as the core of the revised intercal (you can rename it something else if you don't want to overwrite it), but then to make it smaller, I use it in cramped, superscripted form (revision 1). Alternately, I just set it in scriptscriptstyle, which lowers its elevation a bit, while still keeping it higher than the original intercal (revision 2).



Original, then two revisions.



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb
usepackagenewtxtext
usepackagenewtxmath%[lite]mtpro2
begindocument
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalcramped^mathsfT
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalmathsfscriptscriptstyle T
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $
enddocument


enter image description here






share|improve this answer















Combining David's suggestion with Sebastiano's requirement...



I use mathsfT as the core of the revised intercal (you can rename it something else if you don't want to overwrite it), but then to make it smaller, I use it in cramped, superscripted form (revision 1). Alternately, I just set it in scriptscriptstyle, which lowers its elevation a bit, while still keeping it higher than the original intercal (revision 2).



Original, then two revisions.



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb
usepackagenewtxtext
usepackagenewtxmath%[lite]mtpro2
begindocument
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalcramped^mathsfT
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $

renewcommandintercalmathsfscriptscriptstyle T
$(Lboldsymbolmathcal A')^intercal =boldsymbolmathcal A'^intercal L^intercal $
enddocument


enter image description here







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  • Great Steven. But what is cramped?

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago












  • @Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago











  • Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)

    – Sebastiano
    11 hours ago

















  • Great Steven. But what is cramped?

    – Sebastiano
    14 hours ago






  • 1





    @Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago












  • @Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.

    – Steven B. Segletes
    14 hours ago











  • Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)

    – Sebastiano
    11 hours ago
















Great Steven. But what is cramped?

– Sebastiano
14 hours ago





Great Steven. But what is cramped?

– Sebastiano
14 hours ago




1




1





@Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).

– Steven B. Segletes
14 hours ago






@Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).

– Steven B. Segletes
14 hours ago














@Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.

– Steven B. Segletes
14 hours ago





@Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.

– Steven B. Segletes
14 hours ago













Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)

– Sebastiano
11 hours ago





Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)

– Sebastiano
11 hours ago











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Here's another variation on David's idea to use mathsfT instead of either intercal or top. The macro tp (short for "transpose", naturally) employs scriptscriptstyle math mode. The tp macro takes an optional argument: a scalar number, to indicate how many mu the "T" should be shifted to the left. The ability to fine-tune the horizontal position can come in handy if you're dealing with letters, such as L, which have no component in the upper-right quadrant. (The default amount of left-shift is 3, as in -3mu. Aside: mkern-3mu is the same as !.)



enter image description here



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb,newtxtext
usepackage[lite]mtpro2
newcommandbmcAboldsymbolmathcal A'
newcommandtp[1][3]^^mkern-#1mumathsfT
begindocument
$intercal$ $top$ $mathsfT$

medskip
begintabular@ll
$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \
$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$ & verb+top+ \
$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcAtp Ltp[6]$ & verb+tp+
endtabular
enddocument





share|improve this answer























  • The answers are all very good. :-( If I don't give the green check it's because I'm good with the two answers at the same time.

    – Sebastiano
    11 hours ago















2














Here's another variation on David's idea to use mathsfT instead of either intercal or top. The macro tp (short for "transpose", naturally) employs scriptscriptstyle math mode. The tp macro takes an optional argument: a scalar number, to indicate how many mu the "T" should be shifted to the left. The ability to fine-tune the horizontal position can come in handy if you're dealing with letters, such as L, which have no component in the upper-right quadrant. (The default amount of left-shift is 3, as in -3mu. Aside: mkern-3mu is the same as !.)



enter image description here



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb,newtxtext
usepackage[lite]mtpro2
newcommandbmcAboldsymbolmathcal A'
newcommandtp[1][3]^^mkern-#1mumathsfT
begindocument
$intercal$ $top$ $mathsfT$

medskip
begintabular@ll
$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \
$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$ & verb+top+ \
$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcAtp Ltp[6]$ & verb+tp+
endtabular
enddocument





share|improve this answer























  • The answers are all very good. :-( If I don't give the green check it's because I'm good with the two answers at the same time.

    – Sebastiano
    11 hours ago













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Here's another variation on David's idea to use mathsfT instead of either intercal or top. The macro tp (short for "transpose", naturally) employs scriptscriptstyle math mode. The tp macro takes an optional argument: a scalar number, to indicate how many mu the "T" should be shifted to the left. The ability to fine-tune the horizontal position can come in handy if you're dealing with letters, such as L, which have no component in the upper-right quadrant. (The default amount of left-shift is 3, as in -3mu. Aside: mkern-3mu is the same as !.)



enter image description here



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb,newtxtext
usepackage[lite]mtpro2
newcommandbmcAboldsymbolmathcal A'
newcommandtp[1][3]^^mkern-#1mumathsfT
begindocument
$intercal$ $top$ $mathsfT$

medskip
begintabular@ll
$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \
$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$ & verb+top+ \
$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcAtp Ltp[6]$ & verb+tp+
endtabular
enddocument





share|improve this answer













Here's another variation on David's idea to use mathsfT instead of either intercal or top. The macro tp (short for "transpose", naturally) employs scriptscriptstyle math mode. The tp macro takes an optional argument: a scalar number, to indicate how many mu the "T" should be shifted to the left. The ability to fine-tune the horizontal position can come in handy if you're dealing with letters, such as L, which have no component in the upper-right quadrant. (The default amount of left-shift is 3, as in -3mu. Aside: mkern-3mu is the same as !.)



enter image description here



documentclass[12pt]book
usepackagemathtools,amssymb,newtxtext
usepackage[lite]mtpro2
newcommandbmcAboldsymbolmathcal A'
newcommandtp[1][3]^^mkern-#1mumathsfT
begindocument
$intercal$ $top$ $mathsfT$

medskip
begintabular@ll
$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \
$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$ & verb+top+ \
$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcAtp Ltp[6]$ & verb+tp+
endtabular
enddocument






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  • The answers are all very good. :-( If I don't give the green check it's because I'm good with the two answers at the same time.

    – Sebastiano
    11 hours ago

















  • The answers are all very good. :-( If I don't give the green check it's because I'm good with the two answers at the same time.

    – Sebastiano
    11 hours ago
















The answers are all very good. :-( If I don't give the green check it's because I'm good with the two answers at the same time.

– Sebastiano
11 hours ago





The answers are all very good. :-( If I don't give the green check it's because I'm good with the two answers at the same time.

– Sebastiano
11 hours ago

















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