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Why “Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous” and “like living with a bomb”?


Why does the oxygen produced in the photosynthesis come from water and not carbon dioxide?Do plants with non-green leaves have chlorophyll and photosynthesis?Why is there a seeming dichotomy between mobility and photosynthesis?Could cyanobacteria thrive with very high CO2 concentrations and almost no oxygen to start with?













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The Phys.org article Scientists discover first organism with chlorophyll genes that doesn't photosynthesize says




"For the first time scientists have found an organism that can produce chlorophyll but does not engage in photosynthesis.




It is referring to the new paper in Nature A widespread coral-infecting apicomplexan with chlorophyll biosynthesis genes (paywalled).




"This is the second most abundant cohabitant of coral on the planet and it hasn't been seen until now," says Patrick Keeling, a University of British Columbia botanist and senior researcher overseeing the study published in Nature. "This organism poses completely new biochemical questions. It looks like a parasite, and it's definitely not photosynthetic. But it still makes chlorophyll."



[...]



Chlorophyll is the green pigment found in plants and algae that allows them to absorb energy from sunlight during photosynthesis.



"Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous because chlorophyll is very good at capturing energy, but without photosynthesis to release the energy slowly it is like living with a bomb in your cells," Keeling says.




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    While I lack detailed knowledge of this organism's internal structure, it's plausible that since it is still carrying out photocapture and acid pump that the acid pump directly powers ATP synthesis like it would normally do in mitochondria. It would take a link between the plastids and the mitochondira to do, but that's not ridiciulously implausible.
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    It is important to note, at least from my understanding of the article, that the organism doesn't actually produce chlorophyll; it merely has the genes to do so, but they seem to be inactive.
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The Phys.org article Scientists discover first organism with chlorophyll genes that doesn't photosynthesize says




"For the first time scientists have found an organism that can produce chlorophyll but does not engage in photosynthesis.




It is referring to the new paper in Nature A widespread coral-infecting apicomplexan with chlorophyll biosynthesis genes (paywalled).




"This is the second most abundant cohabitant of coral on the planet and it hasn't been seen until now," says Patrick Keeling, a University of British Columbia botanist and senior researcher overseeing the study published in Nature. "This organism poses completely new biochemical questions. It looks like a parasite, and it's definitely not photosynthetic. But it still makes chlorophyll."



[...]



Chlorophyll is the green pigment found in plants and algae that allows them to absorb energy from sunlight during photosynthesis.



"Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous because chlorophyll is very good at capturing energy, but without photosynthesis to release the energy slowly it is like living with a bomb in your cells," Keeling says.




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    While I lack detailed knowledge of this organism's internal structure, it's plausible that since it is still carrying out photocapture and acid pump that the acid pump directly powers ATP synthesis like it would normally do in mitochondria. It would take a link between the plastids and the mitochondira to do, but that's not ridiciulously implausible.
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    – Joshua
    9 hours ago






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    It is important to note, at least from my understanding of the article, that the organism doesn't actually produce chlorophyll; it merely has the genes to do so, but they seem to be inactive.
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    4 hours ago






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The Phys.org article Scientists discover first organism with chlorophyll genes that doesn't photosynthesize says




"For the first time scientists have found an organism that can produce chlorophyll but does not engage in photosynthesis.




It is referring to the new paper in Nature A widespread coral-infecting apicomplexan with chlorophyll biosynthesis genes (paywalled).




"This is the second most abundant cohabitant of coral on the planet and it hasn't been seen until now," says Patrick Keeling, a University of British Columbia botanist and senior researcher overseeing the study published in Nature. "This organism poses completely new biochemical questions. It looks like a parasite, and it's definitely not photosynthetic. But it still makes chlorophyll."



[...]



Chlorophyll is the green pigment found in plants and algae that allows them to absorb energy from sunlight during photosynthesis.



"Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous because chlorophyll is very good at capturing energy, but without photosynthesis to release the energy slowly it is like living with a bomb in your cells," Keeling says.




Question: Why is it that "Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous" and "like living with a bomb"?










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The Phys.org article Scientists discover first organism with chlorophyll genes that doesn't photosynthesize says




"For the first time scientists have found an organism that can produce chlorophyll but does not engage in photosynthesis.




It is referring to the new paper in Nature A widespread coral-infecting apicomplexan with chlorophyll biosynthesis genes (paywalled).




"This is the second most abundant cohabitant of coral on the planet and it hasn't been seen until now," says Patrick Keeling, a University of British Columbia botanist and senior researcher overseeing the study published in Nature. "This organism poses completely new biochemical questions. It looks like a parasite, and it's definitely not photosynthetic. But it still makes chlorophyll."



[...]



Chlorophyll is the green pigment found in plants and algae that allows them to absorb energy from sunlight during photosynthesis.



"Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous because chlorophyll is very good at capturing energy, but without photosynthesis to release the energy slowly it is like living with a bomb in your cells," Keeling says.




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    While I lack detailed knowledge of this organism's internal structure, it's plausible that since it is still carrying out photocapture and acid pump that the acid pump directly powers ATP synthesis like it would normally do in mitochondria. It would take a link between the plastids and the mitochondira to do, but that's not ridiciulously implausible.
    $endgroup$
    – Joshua
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    It is important to note, at least from my understanding of the article, that the organism doesn't actually produce chlorophyll; it merely has the genes to do so, but they seem to be inactive.
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    – gardenhead
    4 hours ago






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    @David: Is it bad to mention if a specific article is open access or paywalled?
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    While I lack detailed knowledge of this organism's internal structure, it's plausible that since it is still carrying out photocapture and acid pump that the acid pump directly powers ATP synthesis like it would normally do in mitochondria. It would take a link between the plastids and the mitochondira to do, but that's not ridiciulously implausible.
    $endgroup$
    – Joshua
    9 hours ago






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    It is important to note, at least from my understanding of the article, that the organism doesn't actually produce chlorophyll; it merely has the genes to do so, but they seem to be inactive.
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    – gardenhead
    4 hours ago






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    @David: Is it bad to mention if a specific article is open access or paywalled?
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While I lack detailed knowledge of this organism's internal structure, it's plausible that since it is still carrying out photocapture and acid pump that the acid pump directly powers ATP synthesis like it would normally do in mitochondria. It would take a link between the plastids and the mitochondira to do, but that's not ridiciulously implausible.
$endgroup$
– Joshua
9 hours ago




$begingroup$
While I lack detailed knowledge of this organism's internal structure, it's plausible that since it is still carrying out photocapture and acid pump that the acid pump directly powers ATP synthesis like it would normally do in mitochondria. It would take a link between the plastids and the mitochondira to do, but that's not ridiciulously implausible.
$endgroup$
– Joshua
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It is important to note, at least from my understanding of the article, that the organism doesn't actually produce chlorophyll; it merely has the genes to do so, but they seem to be inactive.
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It is important to note, at least from my understanding of the article, that the organism doesn't actually produce chlorophyll; it merely has the genes to do so, but they seem to be inactive.
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Chlorophyll absorbs photons (light). The energy in the photon extracts an electron from a molecule of water. Electron transfer creates intermediate superoxide and hydroxyl radicals from the oxygen and hydrogen from the donor water molecule.



In normal photosynthesis, these radicals are quickly used to power the reduction of NADP to NADPH and the synthesis of ATP from ADP. NADPH and ATP in turn power the synthesis of sugars from carbon dioxide and water, via the Calvin cycle.



These radicals are highly reactive. They will attack DNA, proteins, and structural lipids within the cell, and are therefore dangerous. In normal plant cells that get too much sun, free radicals can build up and cause cell damage.



My guess is that the "bomb" is made up of higher concentrations of these radicals within a cell with no apparent machinery to perform the downstream (photosynthetic) chemical reactions needed to consume them safely.






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    @gardenhead. The photosynthetic ETC removes electrons from water (forming oxygen in the process) [but I am not sure I agree with the sentence ' It transfers the energy of a photon as an electron to a molecule of water']
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    Chlorophyll (and more commonly porphyrins) are in fact used to kill cells by light exposure in photodynamic therapy (Song et al., 2014)
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    @elzell I would say that's usual dehydration/UV induced damage. Usually chlorophyll synthesis is regulated and there are anti-oxidants to prevent oxidative damage. Note that excessive sunlight also burns animals.
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    Well now this just leaves me wondering if these organisms are doing anything with this chlorophyll. Are they just in some really weird evolutionary niche where they manage to produce chlorophyll they don't need, without it being a large enough burden to stop the species from surviving?
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Alex Reynolds has explained why “Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous”, but I think that the original sensational statement by Phys.org is unhelpful as it distracts from the real question. However that’s what you get with so-called ‘free’ journalism.



Obviously organisms don’t synthesize complex molecules without a reason. If the corals don’t perform photosynthesis, they use the high-energy electrons produced from the light photons for something else. To quote from the paper:




Chlorophyll itself has no natural biological function outside of photosynthesis, so if photosystems are indeed absent, corallicolids must have evolved a novel use for either chlorophyll or its closely related precursors or derivatives. However, these molecules generally function in light harvesting, which would be destructive to cellular integrity without the coupling of the resulting high-energy compounds to photosynthesis. Other possibilities are functions in light sensing, photo-quenching or the regulation of haem synthesis, but these too leave open the question of what the cell would do with the high- energy end products. Moreover, we detected corallicolids in sun coral (Tubastrea sp.) and black coral (order Antipatharia), both of which are considered to be non-photosynthetic corals, which further suggests that corallicolids deviate from classical modes of light harvesting.




The interesting question is what they use it for. Bombs are for writers that don’t do biochemistry.






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    You probably didn't notice but the article is directly quoting one of the authors. The reference to "bomb" is in quotation marks, with the author's name following immediately. Your bone to pick is with the author himself, not with Phys.org or "free journalism" (which it isn't, Phys.org has advertisements). I also felt it was strange that an author of the paper would use this wording, You may want to fix this glaring error in the beginning of your otherwise helpful answer. Thanks!
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Chlorophyll absorbs photons (light). The energy in the photon extracts an electron from a molecule of water. Electron transfer creates intermediate superoxide and hydroxyl radicals from the oxygen and hydrogen from the donor water molecule.



In normal photosynthesis, these radicals are quickly used to power the reduction of NADP to NADPH and the synthesis of ATP from ADP. NADPH and ATP in turn power the synthesis of sugars from carbon dioxide and water, via the Calvin cycle.



These radicals are highly reactive. They will attack DNA, proteins, and structural lipids within the cell, and are therefore dangerous. In normal plant cells that get too much sun, free radicals can build up and cause cell damage.



My guess is that the "bomb" is made up of higher concentrations of these radicals within a cell with no apparent machinery to perform the downstream (photosynthetic) chemical reactions needed to consume them safely.






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    It would be great if you could provide some references.
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    – WYSIWYG
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    @gardenhead. The photosynthetic ETC removes electrons from water (forming oxygen in the process) [but I am not sure I agree with the sentence ' It transfers the energy of a photon as an electron to a molecule of water']
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    Chlorophyll (and more commonly porphyrins) are in fact used to kill cells by light exposure in photodynamic therapy (Song et al., 2014)
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    @elzell I would say that's usual dehydration/UV induced damage. Usually chlorophyll synthesis is regulated and there are anti-oxidants to prevent oxidative damage. Note that excessive sunlight also burns animals.
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    10 hours ago







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    Well now this just leaves me wondering if these organisms are doing anything with this chlorophyll. Are they just in some really weird evolutionary niche where they manage to produce chlorophyll they don't need, without it being a large enough burden to stop the species from surviving?
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Chlorophyll absorbs photons (light). The energy in the photon extracts an electron from a molecule of water. Electron transfer creates intermediate superoxide and hydroxyl radicals from the oxygen and hydrogen from the donor water molecule.



In normal photosynthesis, these radicals are quickly used to power the reduction of NADP to NADPH and the synthesis of ATP from ADP. NADPH and ATP in turn power the synthesis of sugars from carbon dioxide and water, via the Calvin cycle.



These radicals are highly reactive. They will attack DNA, proteins, and structural lipids within the cell, and are therefore dangerous. In normal plant cells that get too much sun, free radicals can build up and cause cell damage.



My guess is that the "bomb" is made up of higher concentrations of these radicals within a cell with no apparent machinery to perform the downstream (photosynthetic) chemical reactions needed to consume them safely.






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    It would be great if you could provide some references.
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    – WYSIWYG
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    @gardenhead. The photosynthetic ETC removes electrons from water (forming oxygen in the process) [but I am not sure I agree with the sentence ' It transfers the energy of a photon as an electron to a molecule of water']
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    11 hours ago







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    Chlorophyll (and more commonly porphyrins) are in fact used to kill cells by light exposure in photodynamic therapy (Song et al., 2014)
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    11 hours ago






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    @elzell I would say that's usual dehydration/UV induced damage. Usually chlorophyll synthesis is regulated and there are anti-oxidants to prevent oxidative damage. Note that excessive sunlight also burns animals.
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    – WYSIWYG
    10 hours ago







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    Well now this just leaves me wondering if these organisms are doing anything with this chlorophyll. Are they just in some really weird evolutionary niche where they manage to produce chlorophyll they don't need, without it being a large enough burden to stop the species from surviving?
    $endgroup$
    – JMac
    9 hours ago













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Chlorophyll absorbs photons (light). The energy in the photon extracts an electron from a molecule of water. Electron transfer creates intermediate superoxide and hydroxyl radicals from the oxygen and hydrogen from the donor water molecule.



In normal photosynthesis, these radicals are quickly used to power the reduction of NADP to NADPH and the synthesis of ATP from ADP. NADPH and ATP in turn power the synthesis of sugars from carbon dioxide and water, via the Calvin cycle.



These radicals are highly reactive. They will attack DNA, proteins, and structural lipids within the cell, and are therefore dangerous. In normal plant cells that get too much sun, free radicals can build up and cause cell damage.



My guess is that the "bomb" is made up of higher concentrations of these radicals within a cell with no apparent machinery to perform the downstream (photosynthetic) chemical reactions needed to consume them safely.






share|improve this answer











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Chlorophyll absorbs photons (light). The energy in the photon extracts an electron from a molecule of water. Electron transfer creates intermediate superoxide and hydroxyl radicals from the oxygen and hydrogen from the donor water molecule.



In normal photosynthesis, these radicals are quickly used to power the reduction of NADP to NADPH and the synthesis of ATP from ADP. NADPH and ATP in turn power the synthesis of sugars from carbon dioxide and water, via the Calvin cycle.



These radicals are highly reactive. They will attack DNA, proteins, and structural lipids within the cell, and are therefore dangerous. In normal plant cells that get too much sun, free radicals can build up and cause cell damage.



My guess is that the "bomb" is made up of higher concentrations of these radicals within a cell with no apparent machinery to perform the downstream (photosynthetic) chemical reactions needed to consume them safely.







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    @gardenhead. The photosynthetic ETC removes electrons from water (forming oxygen in the process) [but I am not sure I agree with the sentence ' It transfers the energy of a photon as an electron to a molecule of water']
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    Chlorophyll (and more commonly porphyrins) are in fact used to kill cells by light exposure in photodynamic therapy (Song et al., 2014)
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    @elzell I would say that's usual dehydration/UV induced damage. Usually chlorophyll synthesis is regulated and there are anti-oxidants to prevent oxidative damage. Note that excessive sunlight also burns animals.
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    10 hours ago







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    Well now this just leaves me wondering if these organisms are doing anything with this chlorophyll. Are they just in some really weird evolutionary niche where they manage to produce chlorophyll they don't need, without it being a large enough burden to stop the species from surviving?
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    @gardenhead. The photosynthetic ETC removes electrons from water (forming oxygen in the process) [but I am not sure I agree with the sentence ' It transfers the energy of a photon as an electron to a molecule of water']
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    Chlorophyll (and more commonly porphyrins) are in fact used to kill cells by light exposure in photodynamic therapy (Song et al., 2014)
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    @elzell I would say that's usual dehydration/UV induced damage. Usually chlorophyll synthesis is regulated and there are anti-oxidants to prevent oxidative damage. Note that excessive sunlight also burns animals.
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    Well now this just leaves me wondering if these organisms are doing anything with this chlorophyll. Are they just in some really weird evolutionary niche where they manage to produce chlorophyll they don't need, without it being a large enough burden to stop the species from surviving?
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Well now this just leaves me wondering if these organisms are doing anything with this chlorophyll. Are they just in some really weird evolutionary niche where they manage to produce chlorophyll they don't need, without it being a large enough burden to stop the species from surviving?
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Well now this just leaves me wondering if these organisms are doing anything with this chlorophyll. Are they just in some really weird evolutionary niche where they manage to produce chlorophyll they don't need, without it being a large enough burden to stop the species from surviving?
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Alex Reynolds has explained why “Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous”, but I think that the original sensational statement by Phys.org is unhelpful as it distracts from the real question. However that’s what you get with so-called ‘free’ journalism.



Obviously organisms don’t synthesize complex molecules without a reason. If the corals don’t perform photosynthesis, they use the high-energy electrons produced from the light photons for something else. To quote from the paper:




Chlorophyll itself has no natural biological function outside of photosynthesis, so if photosystems are indeed absent, corallicolids must have evolved a novel use for either chlorophyll or its closely related precursors or derivatives. However, these molecules generally function in light harvesting, which would be destructive to cellular integrity without the coupling of the resulting high-energy compounds to photosynthesis. Other possibilities are functions in light sensing, photo-quenching or the regulation of haem synthesis, but these too leave open the question of what the cell would do with the high- energy end products. Moreover, we detected corallicolids in sun coral (Tubastrea sp.) and black coral (order Antipatharia), both of which are considered to be non-photosynthetic corals, which further suggests that corallicolids deviate from classical modes of light harvesting.




The interesting question is what they use it for. Bombs are for writers that don’t do biochemistry.






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    You probably didn't notice but the article is directly quoting one of the authors. The reference to "bomb" is in quotation marks, with the author's name following immediately. Your bone to pick is with the author himself, not with Phys.org or "free journalism" (which it isn't, Phys.org has advertisements). I also felt it was strange that an author of the paper would use this wording, You may want to fix this glaring error in the beginning of your otherwise helpful answer. Thanks!
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    (-1) because first and final sentences are inaccurate and should be corrected. You're claiming that the author of the Nature paper doesn't do biochemistry. Yikes!
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Alex Reynolds has explained why “Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous”, but I think that the original sensational statement by Phys.org is unhelpful as it distracts from the real question. However that’s what you get with so-called ‘free’ journalism.



Obviously organisms don’t synthesize complex molecules without a reason. If the corals don’t perform photosynthesis, they use the high-energy electrons produced from the light photons for something else. To quote from the paper:




Chlorophyll itself has no natural biological function outside of photosynthesis, so if photosystems are indeed absent, corallicolids must have evolved a novel use for either chlorophyll or its closely related precursors or derivatives. However, these molecules generally function in light harvesting, which would be destructive to cellular integrity without the coupling of the resulting high-energy compounds to photosynthesis. Other possibilities are functions in light sensing, photo-quenching or the regulation of haem synthesis, but these too leave open the question of what the cell would do with the high- energy end products. Moreover, we detected corallicolids in sun coral (Tubastrea sp.) and black coral (order Antipatharia), both of which are considered to be non-photosynthetic corals, which further suggests that corallicolids deviate from classical modes of light harvesting.




The interesting question is what they use it for. Bombs are for writers that don’t do biochemistry.






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    You probably didn't notice but the article is directly quoting one of the authors. The reference to "bomb" is in quotation marks, with the author's name following immediately. Your bone to pick is with the author himself, not with Phys.org or "free journalism" (which it isn't, Phys.org has advertisements). I also felt it was strange that an author of the paper would use this wording, You may want to fix this glaring error in the beginning of your otherwise helpful answer. Thanks!
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Alex Reynolds has explained why “Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous”, but I think that the original sensational statement by Phys.org is unhelpful as it distracts from the real question. However that’s what you get with so-called ‘free’ journalism.



Obviously organisms don’t synthesize complex molecules without a reason. If the corals don’t perform photosynthesis, they use the high-energy electrons produced from the light photons for something else. To quote from the paper:




Chlorophyll itself has no natural biological function outside of photosynthesis, so if photosystems are indeed absent, corallicolids must have evolved a novel use for either chlorophyll or its closely related precursors or derivatives. However, these molecules generally function in light harvesting, which would be destructive to cellular integrity without the coupling of the resulting high-energy compounds to photosynthesis. Other possibilities are functions in light sensing, photo-quenching or the regulation of haem synthesis, but these too leave open the question of what the cell would do with the high- energy end products. Moreover, we detected corallicolids in sun coral (Tubastrea sp.) and black coral (order Antipatharia), both of which are considered to be non-photosynthetic corals, which further suggests that corallicolids deviate from classical modes of light harvesting.




The interesting question is what they use it for. Bombs are for writers that don’t do biochemistry.






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Alex Reynolds has explained why “Having chlorophyll without photosynthesis is actually very dangerous”, but I think that the original sensational statement by Phys.org is unhelpful as it distracts from the real question. However that’s what you get with so-called ‘free’ journalism.



Obviously organisms don’t synthesize complex molecules without a reason. If the corals don’t perform photosynthesis, they use the high-energy electrons produced from the light photons for something else. To quote from the paper:




Chlorophyll itself has no natural biological function outside of photosynthesis, so if photosystems are indeed absent, corallicolids must have evolved a novel use for either chlorophyll or its closely related precursors or derivatives. However, these molecules generally function in light harvesting, which would be destructive to cellular integrity without the coupling of the resulting high-energy compounds to photosynthesis. Other possibilities are functions in light sensing, photo-quenching or the regulation of haem synthesis, but these too leave open the question of what the cell would do with the high- energy end products. Moreover, we detected corallicolids in sun coral (Tubastrea sp.) and black coral (order Antipatharia), both of which are considered to be non-photosynthetic corals, which further suggests that corallicolids deviate from classical modes of light harvesting.




The interesting question is what they use it for. Bombs are for writers that don’t do biochemistry.







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    You probably didn't notice but the article is directly quoting one of the authors. The reference to "bomb" is in quotation marks, with the author's name following immediately. Your bone to pick is with the author himself, not with Phys.org or "free journalism" (which it isn't, Phys.org has advertisements). I also felt it was strange that an author of the paper would use this wording, You may want to fix this glaring error in the beginning of your otherwise helpful answer. Thanks!
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    You probably didn't notice but the article is directly quoting one of the authors. The reference to "bomb" is in quotation marks, with the author's name following immediately. Your bone to pick is with the author himself, not with Phys.org or "free journalism" (which it isn't, Phys.org has advertisements). I also felt it was strange that an author of the paper would use this wording, You may want to fix this glaring error in the beginning of your otherwise helpful answer. Thanks!
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    (-1) because first and final sentences are inaccurate and should be corrected. You're claiming that the author of the Nature paper doesn't do biochemistry. Yikes!
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You probably didn't notice but the article is directly quoting one of the authors. The reference to "bomb" is in quotation marks, with the author's name following immediately. Your bone to pick is with the author himself, not with Phys.org or "free journalism" (which it isn't, Phys.org has advertisements). I also felt it was strange that an author of the paper would use this wording, You may want to fix this glaring error in the beginning of your otherwise helpful answer. Thanks!
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You probably didn't notice but the article is directly quoting one of the authors. The reference to "bomb" is in quotation marks, with the author's name following immediately. Your bone to pick is with the author himself, not with Phys.org or "free journalism" (which it isn't, Phys.org has advertisements). I also felt it was strange that an author of the paper would use this wording, You may want to fix this glaring error in the beginning of your otherwise helpful answer. Thanks!
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(-1) because first and final sentences are inaccurate and should be corrected. You're claiming that the author of the Nature paper doesn't do biochemistry. Yikes!
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