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For someone who values anonymity & privacy, what is the recommended way to pay on the Internet?
Example: To buy a domain or a VPN or another service
I know that we can use cryptocurrencies, but at some point, you need to buy cryptocurrency using a traditional currency.
privacy anonymity money
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For someone who values anonymity & privacy, what is the recommended way to pay on the Internet?
Example: To buy a domain or a VPN or another service
I know that we can use cryptocurrencies, but at some point, you need to buy cryptocurrency using a traditional currency.
privacy anonymity money
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If you don't want a domain for a service you're hosting for others but just for yourself to contact your own server, you can go for a free subdomain. There are several of these free services. Apart from saving a small amount of money, the advantages are that your name doesn't appear in some DNS registrar's database and that you don't leave identifying information in a money trail because there is no money trail.
– UTF-8
yesterday
@DxTx why would you want to buy a domain name? It's the inverse of privacy (registrar requires personal information that are publicly accessible via WHOIS).
– zakinster
17 hours ago
@zakinster I use that as an example. But there are ways to run a website anonymously, right? (Link01, Link02)
– DxTx
17 hours ago
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I personally defend the valuable topic of right to anonymity. But I shall also point out that regardless of any legitimate reason, the sole ability to transfer money anonymously opens the gate to money laundering and funding to either terrorist groups, mafia, Wikileaks etc. So there will always be forces trying to prevent each of us from transacting (truly) anonymously.
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
1
@zakinster, private domain registration where the name of a proxy company is listed rather than your info is super common when registering domain names and most (all?) registrars provide that service. If you register with your real info, you will get spammed to death.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
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For someone who values anonymity & privacy, what is the recommended way to pay on the Internet?
Example: To buy a domain or a VPN or another service
I know that we can use cryptocurrencies, but at some point, you need to buy cryptocurrency using a traditional currency.
privacy anonymity money
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For someone who values anonymity & privacy, what is the recommended way to pay on the Internet?
Example: To buy a domain or a VPN or another service
I know that we can use cryptocurrencies, but at some point, you need to buy cryptocurrency using a traditional currency.
privacy anonymity money
privacy anonymity money
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If you don't want a domain for a service you're hosting for others but just for yourself to contact your own server, you can go for a free subdomain. There are several of these free services. Apart from saving a small amount of money, the advantages are that your name doesn't appear in some DNS registrar's database and that you don't leave identifying information in a money trail because there is no money trail.
– UTF-8
yesterday
@DxTx why would you want to buy a domain name? It's the inverse of privacy (registrar requires personal information that are publicly accessible via WHOIS).
– zakinster
17 hours ago
@zakinster I use that as an example. But there are ways to run a website anonymously, right? (Link01, Link02)
– DxTx
17 hours ago
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I personally defend the valuable topic of right to anonymity. But I shall also point out that regardless of any legitimate reason, the sole ability to transfer money anonymously opens the gate to money laundering and funding to either terrorist groups, mafia, Wikileaks etc. So there will always be forces trying to prevent each of us from transacting (truly) anonymously.
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
1
@zakinster, private domain registration where the name of a proxy company is listed rather than your info is super common when registering domain names and most (all?) registrars provide that service. If you register with your real info, you will get spammed to death.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
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show 2 more comments
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If you don't want a domain for a service you're hosting for others but just for yourself to contact your own server, you can go for a free subdomain. There are several of these free services. Apart from saving a small amount of money, the advantages are that your name doesn't appear in some DNS registrar's database and that you don't leave identifying information in a money trail because there is no money trail.
– UTF-8
yesterday
@DxTx why would you want to buy a domain name? It's the inverse of privacy (registrar requires personal information that are publicly accessible via WHOIS).
– zakinster
17 hours ago
@zakinster I use that as an example. But there are ways to run a website anonymously, right? (Link01, Link02)
– DxTx
17 hours ago
7
I personally defend the valuable topic of right to anonymity. But I shall also point out that regardless of any legitimate reason, the sole ability to transfer money anonymously opens the gate to money laundering and funding to either terrorist groups, mafia, Wikileaks etc. So there will always be forces trying to prevent each of us from transacting (truly) anonymously.
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
1
@zakinster, private domain registration where the name of a proxy company is listed rather than your info is super common when registering domain names and most (all?) registrars provide that service. If you register with your real info, you will get spammed to death.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
3
3
If you don't want a domain for a service you're hosting for others but just for yourself to contact your own server, you can go for a free subdomain. There are several of these free services. Apart from saving a small amount of money, the advantages are that your name doesn't appear in some DNS registrar's database and that you don't leave identifying information in a money trail because there is no money trail.
– UTF-8
yesterday
If you don't want a domain for a service you're hosting for others but just for yourself to contact your own server, you can go for a free subdomain. There are several of these free services. Apart from saving a small amount of money, the advantages are that your name doesn't appear in some DNS registrar's database and that you don't leave identifying information in a money trail because there is no money trail.
– UTF-8
yesterday
@DxTx why would you want to buy a domain name? It's the inverse of privacy (registrar requires personal information that are publicly accessible via WHOIS).
– zakinster
17 hours ago
@DxTx why would you want to buy a domain name? It's the inverse of privacy (registrar requires personal information that are publicly accessible via WHOIS).
– zakinster
17 hours ago
@zakinster I use that as an example. But there are ways to run a website anonymously, right? (Link01, Link02)
– DxTx
17 hours ago
@zakinster I use that as an example. But there are ways to run a website anonymously, right? (Link01, Link02)
– DxTx
17 hours ago
7
7
I personally defend the valuable topic of right to anonymity. But I shall also point out that regardless of any legitimate reason, the sole ability to transfer money anonymously opens the gate to money laundering and funding to either terrorist groups, mafia, Wikileaks etc. So there will always be forces trying to prevent each of us from transacting (truly) anonymously.
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
I personally defend the valuable topic of right to anonymity. But I shall also point out that regardless of any legitimate reason, the sole ability to transfer money anonymously opens the gate to money laundering and funding to either terrorist groups, mafia, Wikileaks etc. So there will always be forces trying to prevent each of us from transacting (truly) anonymously.
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
1
1
@zakinster, private domain registration where the name of a proxy company is listed rather than your info is super common when registering domain names and most (all?) registrars provide that service. If you register with your real info, you will get spammed to death.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
@zakinster, private domain registration where the name of a proxy company is listed rather than your info is super common when registering domain names and most (all?) registrars provide that service. If you register with your real info, you will get spammed to death.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
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To protect your privacy and avoid tracking, nothing beats cash.
There are various services that let you purchase credits in cash at a brick and mortar store, which you can then later use to purchase goods and services online.
One example is paysafecard (I haven't tried it, but you should also be able to buy bitcoin with cash). There are a number of VPN providers which accept these payments.
Alternatively, you could simply purchase your VPN access directly offline at a store.
There are also domain registrars which accept these payment methods, but most will ask for identifying information (name, address, etc) when registering a domain. So if you want to conform with registrars TOS, registering a domain anonymously wouldn't be possible. You can hide your information from third parties by requesting that your registrar doesn't disclose the information, violate the TOS by providing false information (not recommended), or find a registrar or third party service that does not request this information.
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Some stores also offer prepaid debit cards that you can buy with cash and use anywhere online, I believe.
– Ave
yesterday
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Is it possible they can link your paysafecard to the store where it was bought? which can then use security footage and transaction history to track down location, time, and image (cctv)?
– Keatinge
23 hours ago
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@Keatinge - That is possible - in order to activate anything like that, whoever is issuing it needs to know who sold it, so they know that it's a valid activation (and not fraud). From that, it's certainly possible to work backwards to the specific transaction. But I'm fairly sure that most CCTV in stores is on a rewriting loop. If you let your cards sit long enough (which could be anywhere from a week to a year, at least), then the video will get overwritten and there won't be any useful records left.
– Bobson
21 hours ago
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@Keatinge: CCTV is the outdated threat model there. You have cell phone position records kept by towers, license plate readers, etc. etc. etc. whose data will likely never get overwritten, and which will tie the buyer to the time and location of the sale, if any of them apply to the buyer.
– R..
10 hours ago
2
@Tom Cash is only anonymous by convention and not really by any inherent property. People have been recording serial numbers and marking bills as long as cash has existed. It is definitely within modern technology to use high speed scanners to record serial numbers every time cash moves through a bank, and you can imagine ATMs recording serial numbers as they dispense cash.
– user71659
8 hours ago
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Using a VPN won't make you anonymous.
The owner of the VPN service will still knows who you are from the origin IP address.
In the past several VPN providers that stated that everything was anonymous in fact released all the information they had to the FBI and US Department of Justice. It makes sense that they are not private; if you commit a crime using their systems and they cannot point to the perpetrator of the crime then they might be held liable.
For the crypto currencies, you do not need to buy them; you can mine them.
Also some crypto-currencies have a higher level of privacy than others.
At the moment the best possible way to make you private in some of the internet traffic is still Tor as long you follow their best practice.
The other way to be private in the internet is if you steal someonelse's digital identity. This is the most common means used by thieves.
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You should also be careful to mine them anonymously, i.e. put your mining node behind Tor anyways
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
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@usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ Lots of tor exit nodes are controlled by intelligence organizations. There's always a limit to security.
– Tomáš Zato
12 hours ago
Some VPNs have no-logs policy, but of course it's a matter of trust.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
9 hours ago
@TomášZato [citation needed] That's a common rumor, but the fact is, the highest-bandwidth exit nodes that make up more than 60% of the exit network are run by people and organizations who are well-known. Even though there are a few malicious nodes, it would take a very large sybil attack (which would be very noticeable) to actually deanonymize en masse using traffic correlation attacks.
– forest
3 hours ago
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You could use xmr.to for that.
According to them:
XMR.TO allows you to make a Bitcoin payment with the strong privacy provided by Monero. This means that using Monero together with XMR.TO, you can pay any Bitcoin address in the world while protecting your privacy.
You buy Monero, a privacy-centric coin, send to xmr.to with the destination Bitcoin address, they sell your Monero, buy Bitcoin, and send to the host. Xmr.to a well known service, and lots of people uses it every day.
Their FAQ is pretty informative, and you should read it.
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You could buy gift cards with cash then sell them for bitcoin on r/GiftCardExchange
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You can trade cryptocurrencies with other cryptocurrencies and the trails become cold fast if you use random amounts. More iterations with independent wallets makes it even harder to trace. E.g.
- Buy BTC.
- Transfer some of the BTC (not all) to another wallet.
- Exchange BTC to another cryptocurrency.
- Transfer some of that to another wallet.
- Exchange back to BTC.
- Repeat steps 2 to 5.
The trick is that
- on cryptocurrency transfers it's unclear whether it's your own or someone else's wallet.
- cryptocurrency exchange with independent amounts is untraceable, because it's not the same coins anymore.
Of course you lose some money in the process and it takes some time and effort. That's the price for such anonymity. Sadly the same methods that are used for money laundering applies to making payments truly anonymous.
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I wouldn't trust that. The ledgers are open and it's only a matter of effort to put things together, an effort that can be automated and I would be surprised if law enforcement and other interested parties haven't done so already. There are, however, mixers who will take money from many sources and send it out to many sources, mixing it up so that no connection between sender and receiver can be made. Similar to the old anonymous mail mixers. If you chain a couple of them in various jurisdictions, maybe you have a chance. No idea how many of them are sting operations, though.
– Tom
yesterday
@Tom the problem with mixers is that you would then take part and appear in other money trails that may not be as innocent or well-intentioned as OP...
– zakinster
17 hours ago
3
I disagree that independent amounts make you untraceable. That is only true if the wallets involved have many other, unrelated, transactions. Hence, mixers. Remember that tracing doesn't have to be perfect unless you want to use it as evidence in a court of law. If I'm a three letter agency, or organized crime, a reasonably high degree of confidence that two transactions are related is enough. I can easily develop tools that will trace over multiple intermediate steps and keep track of confidence ratings.
– Tom
14 hours ago
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Mixing and splitting only increase the CPU power needed to trace funds; they do not make it impossible.
– WGroleau
13 hours ago
1
Don't mix them yourself, since you're only combining your own money and all paths lead to you... Use a tumbler service. As an example a popular Bitcoin Cash wallet has one built-in now: cashshuffle.com. The way these work is by making a many-to-many transaction with a lot of peoples moneis and adding a random fee so you can't link back by matching transfer amounts. With 100 of people in a single transaction it becomes very hard to link back to you.
– csiz
12 hours ago
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For obtaining an anonymous source of payment from a cash source you can buy pre-paid debit cards.
Many times you can also get free services for hosting and domain registration; for example, TLDs such as .tk and .ga are (as of this writing) free of charge via FreeNOM.
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nothing beats bitcoin. so far, it's the meta anonymous coin to be used on the internet.
you can probably use it to possibly buy a disposable credit card from "semi-credited" sources (hypothetically, of course) and get vpn yeah? but it's not a good idea. VPN companies aren't mostly trusted imo, and those that are have a shitty product.
you want anonymity online? do what everyone does - TOR and bitcoin. simple enough.
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Bitcoin is not anonymous...
– forest
22 hours ago
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As @forest commented, Bitcoin is explicitly not anonymous, which is why criminals use other cryptocurrencies which are anonymous to hide the money trail.
– Rory Alsop♦
17 hours ago
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To protect your privacy and avoid tracking, nothing beats cash.
There are various services that let you purchase credits in cash at a brick and mortar store, which you can then later use to purchase goods and services online.
One example is paysafecard (I haven't tried it, but you should also be able to buy bitcoin with cash). There are a number of VPN providers which accept these payments.
Alternatively, you could simply purchase your VPN access directly offline at a store.
There are also domain registrars which accept these payment methods, but most will ask for identifying information (name, address, etc) when registering a domain. So if you want to conform with registrars TOS, registering a domain anonymously wouldn't be possible. You can hide your information from third parties by requesting that your registrar doesn't disclose the information, violate the TOS by providing false information (not recommended), or find a registrar or third party service that does not request this information.
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Some stores also offer prepaid debit cards that you can buy with cash and use anywhere online, I believe.
– Ave
yesterday
1
Is it possible they can link your paysafecard to the store where it was bought? which can then use security footage and transaction history to track down location, time, and image (cctv)?
– Keatinge
23 hours ago
5
@Keatinge - That is possible - in order to activate anything like that, whoever is issuing it needs to know who sold it, so they know that it's a valid activation (and not fraud). From that, it's certainly possible to work backwards to the specific transaction. But I'm fairly sure that most CCTV in stores is on a rewriting loop. If you let your cards sit long enough (which could be anywhere from a week to a year, at least), then the video will get overwritten and there won't be any useful records left.
– Bobson
21 hours ago
4
@Keatinge: CCTV is the outdated threat model there. You have cell phone position records kept by towers, license plate readers, etc. etc. etc. whose data will likely never get overwritten, and which will tie the buyer to the time and location of the sale, if any of them apply to the buyer.
– R..
10 hours ago
2
@Tom Cash is only anonymous by convention and not really by any inherent property. People have been recording serial numbers and marking bills as long as cash has existed. It is definitely within modern technology to use high speed scanners to record serial numbers every time cash moves through a bank, and you can imagine ATMs recording serial numbers as they dispense cash.
– user71659
8 hours ago
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To protect your privacy and avoid tracking, nothing beats cash.
There are various services that let you purchase credits in cash at a brick and mortar store, which you can then later use to purchase goods and services online.
One example is paysafecard (I haven't tried it, but you should also be able to buy bitcoin with cash). There are a number of VPN providers which accept these payments.
Alternatively, you could simply purchase your VPN access directly offline at a store.
There are also domain registrars which accept these payment methods, but most will ask for identifying information (name, address, etc) when registering a domain. So if you want to conform with registrars TOS, registering a domain anonymously wouldn't be possible. You can hide your information from third parties by requesting that your registrar doesn't disclose the information, violate the TOS by providing false information (not recommended), or find a registrar or third party service that does not request this information.
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Some stores also offer prepaid debit cards that you can buy with cash and use anywhere online, I believe.
– Ave
yesterday
1
Is it possible they can link your paysafecard to the store where it was bought? which can then use security footage and transaction history to track down location, time, and image (cctv)?
– Keatinge
23 hours ago
5
@Keatinge - That is possible - in order to activate anything like that, whoever is issuing it needs to know who sold it, so they know that it's a valid activation (and not fraud). From that, it's certainly possible to work backwards to the specific transaction. But I'm fairly sure that most CCTV in stores is on a rewriting loop. If you let your cards sit long enough (which could be anywhere from a week to a year, at least), then the video will get overwritten and there won't be any useful records left.
– Bobson
21 hours ago
4
@Keatinge: CCTV is the outdated threat model there. You have cell phone position records kept by towers, license plate readers, etc. etc. etc. whose data will likely never get overwritten, and which will tie the buyer to the time and location of the sale, if any of them apply to the buyer.
– R..
10 hours ago
2
@Tom Cash is only anonymous by convention and not really by any inherent property. People have been recording serial numbers and marking bills as long as cash has existed. It is definitely within modern technology to use high speed scanners to record serial numbers every time cash moves through a bank, and you can imagine ATMs recording serial numbers as they dispense cash.
– user71659
8 hours ago
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To protect your privacy and avoid tracking, nothing beats cash.
There are various services that let you purchase credits in cash at a brick and mortar store, which you can then later use to purchase goods and services online.
One example is paysafecard (I haven't tried it, but you should also be able to buy bitcoin with cash). There are a number of VPN providers which accept these payments.
Alternatively, you could simply purchase your VPN access directly offline at a store.
There are also domain registrars which accept these payment methods, but most will ask for identifying information (name, address, etc) when registering a domain. So if you want to conform with registrars TOS, registering a domain anonymously wouldn't be possible. You can hide your information from third parties by requesting that your registrar doesn't disclose the information, violate the TOS by providing false information (not recommended), or find a registrar or third party service that does not request this information.
To protect your privacy and avoid tracking, nothing beats cash.
There are various services that let you purchase credits in cash at a brick and mortar store, which you can then later use to purchase goods and services online.
One example is paysafecard (I haven't tried it, but you should also be able to buy bitcoin with cash). There are a number of VPN providers which accept these payments.
Alternatively, you could simply purchase your VPN access directly offline at a store.
There are also domain registrars which accept these payment methods, but most will ask for identifying information (name, address, etc) when registering a domain. So if you want to conform with registrars TOS, registering a domain anonymously wouldn't be possible. You can hide your information from third parties by requesting that your registrar doesn't disclose the information, violate the TOS by providing false information (not recommended), or find a registrar or third party service that does not request this information.
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Some stores also offer prepaid debit cards that you can buy with cash and use anywhere online, I believe.
– Ave
yesterday
1
Is it possible they can link your paysafecard to the store where it was bought? which can then use security footage and transaction history to track down location, time, and image (cctv)?
– Keatinge
23 hours ago
5
@Keatinge - That is possible - in order to activate anything like that, whoever is issuing it needs to know who sold it, so they know that it's a valid activation (and not fraud). From that, it's certainly possible to work backwards to the specific transaction. But I'm fairly sure that most CCTV in stores is on a rewriting loop. If you let your cards sit long enough (which could be anywhere from a week to a year, at least), then the video will get overwritten and there won't be any useful records left.
– Bobson
21 hours ago
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@Keatinge: CCTV is the outdated threat model there. You have cell phone position records kept by towers, license plate readers, etc. etc. etc. whose data will likely never get overwritten, and which will tie the buyer to the time and location of the sale, if any of them apply to the buyer.
– R..
10 hours ago
2
@Tom Cash is only anonymous by convention and not really by any inherent property. People have been recording serial numbers and marking bills as long as cash has existed. It is definitely within modern technology to use high speed scanners to record serial numbers every time cash moves through a bank, and you can imagine ATMs recording serial numbers as they dispense cash.
– user71659
8 hours ago
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Some stores also offer prepaid debit cards that you can buy with cash and use anywhere online, I believe.
– Ave
yesterday
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Is it possible they can link your paysafecard to the store where it was bought? which can then use security footage and transaction history to track down location, time, and image (cctv)?
– Keatinge
23 hours ago
5
@Keatinge - That is possible - in order to activate anything like that, whoever is issuing it needs to know who sold it, so they know that it's a valid activation (and not fraud). From that, it's certainly possible to work backwards to the specific transaction. But I'm fairly sure that most CCTV in stores is on a rewriting loop. If you let your cards sit long enough (which could be anywhere from a week to a year, at least), then the video will get overwritten and there won't be any useful records left.
– Bobson
21 hours ago
4
@Keatinge: CCTV is the outdated threat model there. You have cell phone position records kept by towers, license plate readers, etc. etc. etc. whose data will likely never get overwritten, and which will tie the buyer to the time and location of the sale, if any of them apply to the buyer.
– R..
10 hours ago
2
@Tom Cash is only anonymous by convention and not really by any inherent property. People have been recording serial numbers and marking bills as long as cash has existed. It is definitely within modern technology to use high speed scanners to record serial numbers every time cash moves through a bank, and you can imagine ATMs recording serial numbers as they dispense cash.
– user71659
8 hours ago
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Some stores also offer prepaid debit cards that you can buy with cash and use anywhere online, I believe.
– Ave
yesterday
Some stores also offer prepaid debit cards that you can buy with cash and use anywhere online, I believe.
– Ave
yesterday
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Is it possible they can link your paysafecard to the store where it was bought? which can then use security footage and transaction history to track down location, time, and image (cctv)?
– Keatinge
23 hours ago
Is it possible they can link your paysafecard to the store where it was bought? which can then use security footage and transaction history to track down location, time, and image (cctv)?
– Keatinge
23 hours ago
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@Keatinge - That is possible - in order to activate anything like that, whoever is issuing it needs to know who sold it, so they know that it's a valid activation (and not fraud). From that, it's certainly possible to work backwards to the specific transaction. But I'm fairly sure that most CCTV in stores is on a rewriting loop. If you let your cards sit long enough (which could be anywhere from a week to a year, at least), then the video will get overwritten and there won't be any useful records left.
– Bobson
21 hours ago
@Keatinge - That is possible - in order to activate anything like that, whoever is issuing it needs to know who sold it, so they know that it's a valid activation (and not fraud). From that, it's certainly possible to work backwards to the specific transaction. But I'm fairly sure that most CCTV in stores is on a rewriting loop. If you let your cards sit long enough (which could be anywhere from a week to a year, at least), then the video will get overwritten and there won't be any useful records left.
– Bobson
21 hours ago
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@Keatinge: CCTV is the outdated threat model there. You have cell phone position records kept by towers, license plate readers, etc. etc. etc. whose data will likely never get overwritten, and which will tie the buyer to the time and location of the sale, if any of them apply to the buyer.
– R..
10 hours ago
@Keatinge: CCTV is the outdated threat model there. You have cell phone position records kept by towers, license plate readers, etc. etc. etc. whose data will likely never get overwritten, and which will tie the buyer to the time and location of the sale, if any of them apply to the buyer.
– R..
10 hours ago
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@Tom Cash is only anonymous by convention and not really by any inherent property. People have been recording serial numbers and marking bills as long as cash has existed. It is definitely within modern technology to use high speed scanners to record serial numbers every time cash moves through a bank, and you can imagine ATMs recording serial numbers as they dispense cash.
– user71659
8 hours ago
@Tom Cash is only anonymous by convention and not really by any inherent property. People have been recording serial numbers and marking bills as long as cash has existed. It is definitely within modern technology to use high speed scanners to record serial numbers every time cash moves through a bank, and you can imagine ATMs recording serial numbers as they dispense cash.
– user71659
8 hours ago
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Using a VPN won't make you anonymous.
The owner of the VPN service will still knows who you are from the origin IP address.
In the past several VPN providers that stated that everything was anonymous in fact released all the information they had to the FBI and US Department of Justice. It makes sense that they are not private; if you commit a crime using their systems and they cannot point to the perpetrator of the crime then they might be held liable.
For the crypto currencies, you do not need to buy them; you can mine them.
Also some crypto-currencies have a higher level of privacy than others.
At the moment the best possible way to make you private in some of the internet traffic is still Tor as long you follow their best practice.
The other way to be private in the internet is if you steal someonelse's digital identity. This is the most common means used by thieves.
1
You should also be careful to mine them anonymously, i.e. put your mining node behind Tor anyways
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
2
@usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ Lots of tor exit nodes are controlled by intelligence organizations. There's always a limit to security.
– Tomáš Zato
12 hours ago
Some VPNs have no-logs policy, but of course it's a matter of trust.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
9 hours ago
@TomášZato [citation needed] That's a common rumor, but the fact is, the highest-bandwidth exit nodes that make up more than 60% of the exit network are run by people and organizations who are well-known. Even though there are a few malicious nodes, it would take a very large sybil attack (which would be very noticeable) to actually deanonymize en masse using traffic correlation attacks.
– forest
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Using a VPN won't make you anonymous.
The owner of the VPN service will still knows who you are from the origin IP address.
In the past several VPN providers that stated that everything was anonymous in fact released all the information they had to the FBI and US Department of Justice. It makes sense that they are not private; if you commit a crime using their systems and they cannot point to the perpetrator of the crime then they might be held liable.
For the crypto currencies, you do not need to buy them; you can mine them.
Also some crypto-currencies have a higher level of privacy than others.
At the moment the best possible way to make you private in some of the internet traffic is still Tor as long you follow their best practice.
The other way to be private in the internet is if you steal someonelse's digital identity. This is the most common means used by thieves.
1
You should also be careful to mine them anonymously, i.e. put your mining node behind Tor anyways
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
2
@usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ Lots of tor exit nodes are controlled by intelligence organizations. There's always a limit to security.
– Tomáš Zato
12 hours ago
Some VPNs have no-logs policy, but of course it's a matter of trust.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
9 hours ago
@TomášZato [citation needed] That's a common rumor, but the fact is, the highest-bandwidth exit nodes that make up more than 60% of the exit network are run by people and organizations who are well-known. Even though there are a few malicious nodes, it would take a very large sybil attack (which would be very noticeable) to actually deanonymize en masse using traffic correlation attacks.
– forest
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Using a VPN won't make you anonymous.
The owner of the VPN service will still knows who you are from the origin IP address.
In the past several VPN providers that stated that everything was anonymous in fact released all the information they had to the FBI and US Department of Justice. It makes sense that they are not private; if you commit a crime using their systems and they cannot point to the perpetrator of the crime then they might be held liable.
For the crypto currencies, you do not need to buy them; you can mine them.
Also some crypto-currencies have a higher level of privacy than others.
At the moment the best possible way to make you private in some of the internet traffic is still Tor as long you follow their best practice.
The other way to be private in the internet is if you steal someonelse's digital identity. This is the most common means used by thieves.
Using a VPN won't make you anonymous.
The owner of the VPN service will still knows who you are from the origin IP address.
In the past several VPN providers that stated that everything was anonymous in fact released all the information they had to the FBI and US Department of Justice. It makes sense that they are not private; if you commit a crime using their systems and they cannot point to the perpetrator of the crime then they might be held liable.
For the crypto currencies, you do not need to buy them; you can mine them.
Also some crypto-currencies have a higher level of privacy than others.
At the moment the best possible way to make you private in some of the internet traffic is still Tor as long you follow their best practice.
The other way to be private in the internet is if you steal someonelse's digital identity. This is the most common means used by thieves.
edited 3 hours ago
forest
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answered yesterday
HugoHugo
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You should also be careful to mine them anonymously, i.e. put your mining node behind Tor anyways
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
2
@usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ Lots of tor exit nodes are controlled by intelligence organizations. There's always a limit to security.
– Tomáš Zato
12 hours ago
Some VPNs have no-logs policy, but of course it's a matter of trust.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
9 hours ago
@TomášZato [citation needed] That's a common rumor, but the fact is, the highest-bandwidth exit nodes that make up more than 60% of the exit network are run by people and organizations who are well-known. Even though there are a few malicious nodes, it would take a very large sybil attack (which would be very noticeable) to actually deanonymize en masse using traffic correlation attacks.
– forest
3 hours ago
add a comment |
1
You should also be careful to mine them anonymously, i.e. put your mining node behind Tor anyways
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
2
@usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ Lots of tor exit nodes are controlled by intelligence organizations. There's always a limit to security.
– Tomáš Zato
12 hours ago
Some VPNs have no-logs policy, but of course it's a matter of trust.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
9 hours ago
@TomášZato [citation needed] That's a common rumor, but the fact is, the highest-bandwidth exit nodes that make up more than 60% of the exit network are run by people and organizations who are well-known. Even though there are a few malicious nodes, it would take a very large sybil attack (which would be very noticeable) to actually deanonymize en masse using traffic correlation attacks.
– forest
3 hours ago
1
1
You should also be careful to mine them anonymously, i.e. put your mining node behind Tor anyways
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
You should also be careful to mine them anonymously, i.e. put your mining node behind Tor anyways
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
2
2
@usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ Lots of tor exit nodes are controlled by intelligence organizations. There's always a limit to security.
– Tomáš Zato
12 hours ago
@usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ Lots of tor exit nodes are controlled by intelligence organizations. There's always a limit to security.
– Tomáš Zato
12 hours ago
Some VPNs have no-logs policy, but of course it's a matter of trust.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
9 hours ago
Some VPNs have no-logs policy, but of course it's a matter of trust.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
9 hours ago
@TomášZato [citation needed] That's a common rumor, but the fact is, the highest-bandwidth exit nodes that make up more than 60% of the exit network are run by people and organizations who are well-known. Even though there are a few malicious nodes, it would take a very large sybil attack (which would be very noticeable) to actually deanonymize en masse using traffic correlation attacks.
– forest
3 hours ago
@TomášZato [citation needed] That's a common rumor, but the fact is, the highest-bandwidth exit nodes that make up more than 60% of the exit network are run by people and organizations who are well-known. Even though there are a few malicious nodes, it would take a very large sybil attack (which would be very noticeable) to actually deanonymize en masse using traffic correlation attacks.
– forest
3 hours ago
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You could use xmr.to for that.
According to them:
XMR.TO allows you to make a Bitcoin payment with the strong privacy provided by Monero. This means that using Monero together with XMR.TO, you can pay any Bitcoin address in the world while protecting your privacy.
You buy Monero, a privacy-centric coin, send to xmr.to with the destination Bitcoin address, they sell your Monero, buy Bitcoin, and send to the host. Xmr.to a well known service, and lots of people uses it every day.
Their FAQ is pretty informative, and you should read it.
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You could use xmr.to for that.
According to them:
XMR.TO allows you to make a Bitcoin payment with the strong privacy provided by Monero. This means that using Monero together with XMR.TO, you can pay any Bitcoin address in the world while protecting your privacy.
You buy Monero, a privacy-centric coin, send to xmr.to with the destination Bitcoin address, they sell your Monero, buy Bitcoin, and send to the host. Xmr.to a well known service, and lots of people uses it every day.
Their FAQ is pretty informative, and you should read it.
add a comment |
You could use xmr.to for that.
According to them:
XMR.TO allows you to make a Bitcoin payment with the strong privacy provided by Monero. This means that using Monero together with XMR.TO, you can pay any Bitcoin address in the world while protecting your privacy.
You buy Monero, a privacy-centric coin, send to xmr.to with the destination Bitcoin address, they sell your Monero, buy Bitcoin, and send to the host. Xmr.to a well known service, and lots of people uses it every day.
Their FAQ is pretty informative, and you should read it.
You could use xmr.to for that.
According to them:
XMR.TO allows you to make a Bitcoin payment with the strong privacy provided by Monero. This means that using Monero together with XMR.TO, you can pay any Bitcoin address in the world while protecting your privacy.
You buy Monero, a privacy-centric coin, send to xmr.to with the destination Bitcoin address, they sell your Monero, buy Bitcoin, and send to the host. Xmr.to a well known service, and lots of people uses it every day.
Their FAQ is pretty informative, and you should read it.
answered 23 hours ago
ThoriumBRThoriumBR
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24.7k85875
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You could buy gift cards with cash then sell them for bitcoin on r/GiftCardExchange
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You could buy gift cards with cash then sell them for bitcoin on r/GiftCardExchange
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You could buy gift cards with cash then sell them for bitcoin on r/GiftCardExchange
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You could buy gift cards with cash then sell them for bitcoin on r/GiftCardExchange
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answered 22 hours ago
Alex PalumboAlex Palumbo
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You can trade cryptocurrencies with other cryptocurrencies and the trails become cold fast if you use random amounts. More iterations with independent wallets makes it even harder to trace. E.g.
- Buy BTC.
- Transfer some of the BTC (not all) to another wallet.
- Exchange BTC to another cryptocurrency.
- Transfer some of that to another wallet.
- Exchange back to BTC.
- Repeat steps 2 to 5.
The trick is that
- on cryptocurrency transfers it's unclear whether it's your own or someone else's wallet.
- cryptocurrency exchange with independent amounts is untraceable, because it's not the same coins anymore.
Of course you lose some money in the process and it takes some time and effort. That's the price for such anonymity. Sadly the same methods that are used for money laundering applies to making payments truly anonymous.
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I wouldn't trust that. The ledgers are open and it's only a matter of effort to put things together, an effort that can be automated and I would be surprised if law enforcement and other interested parties haven't done so already. There are, however, mixers who will take money from many sources and send it out to many sources, mixing it up so that no connection between sender and receiver can be made. Similar to the old anonymous mail mixers. If you chain a couple of them in various jurisdictions, maybe you have a chance. No idea how many of them are sting operations, though.
– Tom
yesterday
@Tom the problem with mixers is that you would then take part and appear in other money trails that may not be as innocent or well-intentioned as OP...
– zakinster
17 hours ago
3
I disagree that independent amounts make you untraceable. That is only true if the wallets involved have many other, unrelated, transactions. Hence, mixers. Remember that tracing doesn't have to be perfect unless you want to use it as evidence in a court of law. If I'm a three letter agency, or organized crime, a reasonably high degree of confidence that two transactions are related is enough. I can easily develop tools that will trace over multiple intermediate steps and keep track of confidence ratings.
– Tom
14 hours ago
1
Mixing and splitting only increase the CPU power needed to trace funds; they do not make it impossible.
– WGroleau
13 hours ago
1
Don't mix them yourself, since you're only combining your own money and all paths lead to you... Use a tumbler service. As an example a popular Bitcoin Cash wallet has one built-in now: cashshuffle.com. The way these work is by making a many-to-many transaction with a lot of peoples moneis and adding a random fee so you can't link back by matching transfer amounts. With 100 of people in a single transaction it becomes very hard to link back to you.
– csiz
12 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
You can trade cryptocurrencies with other cryptocurrencies and the trails become cold fast if you use random amounts. More iterations with independent wallets makes it even harder to trace. E.g.
- Buy BTC.
- Transfer some of the BTC (not all) to another wallet.
- Exchange BTC to another cryptocurrency.
- Transfer some of that to another wallet.
- Exchange back to BTC.
- Repeat steps 2 to 5.
The trick is that
- on cryptocurrency transfers it's unclear whether it's your own or someone else's wallet.
- cryptocurrency exchange with independent amounts is untraceable, because it's not the same coins anymore.
Of course you lose some money in the process and it takes some time and effort. That's the price for such anonymity. Sadly the same methods that are used for money laundering applies to making payments truly anonymous.
11
I wouldn't trust that. The ledgers are open and it's only a matter of effort to put things together, an effort that can be automated and I would be surprised if law enforcement and other interested parties haven't done so already. There are, however, mixers who will take money from many sources and send it out to many sources, mixing it up so that no connection between sender and receiver can be made. Similar to the old anonymous mail mixers. If you chain a couple of them in various jurisdictions, maybe you have a chance. No idea how many of them are sting operations, though.
– Tom
yesterday
@Tom the problem with mixers is that you would then take part and appear in other money trails that may not be as innocent or well-intentioned as OP...
– zakinster
17 hours ago
3
I disagree that independent amounts make you untraceable. That is only true if the wallets involved have many other, unrelated, transactions. Hence, mixers. Remember that tracing doesn't have to be perfect unless you want to use it as evidence in a court of law. If I'm a three letter agency, or organized crime, a reasonably high degree of confidence that two transactions are related is enough. I can easily develop tools that will trace over multiple intermediate steps and keep track of confidence ratings.
– Tom
14 hours ago
1
Mixing and splitting only increase the CPU power needed to trace funds; they do not make it impossible.
– WGroleau
13 hours ago
1
Don't mix them yourself, since you're only combining your own money and all paths lead to you... Use a tumbler service. As an example a popular Bitcoin Cash wallet has one built-in now: cashshuffle.com. The way these work is by making a many-to-many transaction with a lot of peoples moneis and adding a random fee so you can't link back by matching transfer amounts. With 100 of people in a single transaction it becomes very hard to link back to you.
– csiz
12 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
You can trade cryptocurrencies with other cryptocurrencies and the trails become cold fast if you use random amounts. More iterations with independent wallets makes it even harder to trace. E.g.
- Buy BTC.
- Transfer some of the BTC (not all) to another wallet.
- Exchange BTC to another cryptocurrency.
- Transfer some of that to another wallet.
- Exchange back to BTC.
- Repeat steps 2 to 5.
The trick is that
- on cryptocurrency transfers it's unclear whether it's your own or someone else's wallet.
- cryptocurrency exchange with independent amounts is untraceable, because it's not the same coins anymore.
Of course you lose some money in the process and it takes some time and effort. That's the price for such anonymity. Sadly the same methods that are used for money laundering applies to making payments truly anonymous.
You can trade cryptocurrencies with other cryptocurrencies and the trails become cold fast if you use random amounts. More iterations with independent wallets makes it even harder to trace. E.g.
- Buy BTC.
- Transfer some of the BTC (not all) to another wallet.
- Exchange BTC to another cryptocurrency.
- Transfer some of that to another wallet.
- Exchange back to BTC.
- Repeat steps 2 to 5.
The trick is that
- on cryptocurrency transfers it's unclear whether it's your own or someone else's wallet.
- cryptocurrency exchange with independent amounts is untraceable, because it's not the same coins anymore.
Of course you lose some money in the process and it takes some time and effort. That's the price for such anonymity. Sadly the same methods that are used for money laundering applies to making payments truly anonymous.
edited 16 hours ago
answered yesterday
Esa JokinenEsa Jokinen
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I wouldn't trust that. The ledgers are open and it's only a matter of effort to put things together, an effort that can be automated and I would be surprised if law enforcement and other interested parties haven't done so already. There are, however, mixers who will take money from many sources and send it out to many sources, mixing it up so that no connection between sender and receiver can be made. Similar to the old anonymous mail mixers. If you chain a couple of them in various jurisdictions, maybe you have a chance. No idea how many of them are sting operations, though.
– Tom
yesterday
@Tom the problem with mixers is that you would then take part and appear in other money trails that may not be as innocent or well-intentioned as OP...
– zakinster
17 hours ago
3
I disagree that independent amounts make you untraceable. That is only true if the wallets involved have many other, unrelated, transactions. Hence, mixers. Remember that tracing doesn't have to be perfect unless you want to use it as evidence in a court of law. If I'm a three letter agency, or organized crime, a reasonably high degree of confidence that two transactions are related is enough. I can easily develop tools that will trace over multiple intermediate steps and keep track of confidence ratings.
– Tom
14 hours ago
1
Mixing and splitting only increase the CPU power needed to trace funds; they do not make it impossible.
– WGroleau
13 hours ago
1
Don't mix them yourself, since you're only combining your own money and all paths lead to you... Use a tumbler service. As an example a popular Bitcoin Cash wallet has one built-in now: cashshuffle.com. The way these work is by making a many-to-many transaction with a lot of peoples moneis and adding a random fee so you can't link back by matching transfer amounts. With 100 of people in a single transaction it becomes very hard to link back to you.
– csiz
12 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
11
I wouldn't trust that. The ledgers are open and it's only a matter of effort to put things together, an effort that can be automated and I would be surprised if law enforcement and other interested parties haven't done so already. There are, however, mixers who will take money from many sources and send it out to many sources, mixing it up so that no connection between sender and receiver can be made. Similar to the old anonymous mail mixers. If you chain a couple of them in various jurisdictions, maybe you have a chance. No idea how many of them are sting operations, though.
– Tom
yesterday
@Tom the problem with mixers is that you would then take part and appear in other money trails that may not be as innocent or well-intentioned as OP...
– zakinster
17 hours ago
3
I disagree that independent amounts make you untraceable. That is only true if the wallets involved have many other, unrelated, transactions. Hence, mixers. Remember that tracing doesn't have to be perfect unless you want to use it as evidence in a court of law. If I'm a three letter agency, or organized crime, a reasonably high degree of confidence that two transactions are related is enough. I can easily develop tools that will trace over multiple intermediate steps and keep track of confidence ratings.
– Tom
14 hours ago
1
Mixing and splitting only increase the CPU power needed to trace funds; they do not make it impossible.
– WGroleau
13 hours ago
1
Don't mix them yourself, since you're only combining your own money and all paths lead to you... Use a tumbler service. As an example a popular Bitcoin Cash wallet has one built-in now: cashshuffle.com. The way these work is by making a many-to-many transaction with a lot of peoples moneis and adding a random fee so you can't link back by matching transfer amounts. With 100 of people in a single transaction it becomes very hard to link back to you.
– csiz
12 hours ago
11
11
I wouldn't trust that. The ledgers are open and it's only a matter of effort to put things together, an effort that can be automated and I would be surprised if law enforcement and other interested parties haven't done so already. There are, however, mixers who will take money from many sources and send it out to many sources, mixing it up so that no connection between sender and receiver can be made. Similar to the old anonymous mail mixers. If you chain a couple of them in various jurisdictions, maybe you have a chance. No idea how many of them are sting operations, though.
– Tom
yesterday
I wouldn't trust that. The ledgers are open and it's only a matter of effort to put things together, an effort that can be automated and I would be surprised if law enforcement and other interested parties haven't done so already. There are, however, mixers who will take money from many sources and send it out to many sources, mixing it up so that no connection between sender and receiver can be made. Similar to the old anonymous mail mixers. If you chain a couple of them in various jurisdictions, maybe you have a chance. No idea how many of them are sting operations, though.
– Tom
yesterday
@Tom the problem with mixers is that you would then take part and appear in other money trails that may not be as innocent or well-intentioned as OP...
– zakinster
17 hours ago
@Tom the problem with mixers is that you would then take part and appear in other money trails that may not be as innocent or well-intentioned as OP...
– zakinster
17 hours ago
3
3
I disagree that independent amounts make you untraceable. That is only true if the wallets involved have many other, unrelated, transactions. Hence, mixers. Remember that tracing doesn't have to be perfect unless you want to use it as evidence in a court of law. If I'm a three letter agency, or organized crime, a reasonably high degree of confidence that two transactions are related is enough. I can easily develop tools that will trace over multiple intermediate steps and keep track of confidence ratings.
– Tom
14 hours ago
I disagree that independent amounts make you untraceable. That is only true if the wallets involved have many other, unrelated, transactions. Hence, mixers. Remember that tracing doesn't have to be perfect unless you want to use it as evidence in a court of law. If I'm a three letter agency, or organized crime, a reasonably high degree of confidence that two transactions are related is enough. I can easily develop tools that will trace over multiple intermediate steps and keep track of confidence ratings.
– Tom
14 hours ago
1
1
Mixing and splitting only increase the CPU power needed to trace funds; they do not make it impossible.
– WGroleau
13 hours ago
Mixing and splitting only increase the CPU power needed to trace funds; they do not make it impossible.
– WGroleau
13 hours ago
1
1
Don't mix them yourself, since you're only combining your own money and all paths lead to you... Use a tumbler service. As an example a popular Bitcoin Cash wallet has one built-in now: cashshuffle.com. The way these work is by making a many-to-many transaction with a lot of peoples moneis and adding a random fee so you can't link back by matching transfer amounts. With 100 of people in a single transaction it becomes very hard to link back to you.
– csiz
12 hours ago
Don't mix them yourself, since you're only combining your own money and all paths lead to you... Use a tumbler service. As an example a popular Bitcoin Cash wallet has one built-in now: cashshuffle.com. The way these work is by making a many-to-many transaction with a lot of peoples moneis and adding a random fee so you can't link back by matching transfer amounts. With 100 of people in a single transaction it becomes very hard to link back to you.
– csiz
12 hours ago
|
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For obtaining an anonymous source of payment from a cash source you can buy pre-paid debit cards.
Many times you can also get free services for hosting and domain registration; for example, TLDs such as .tk and .ga are (as of this writing) free of charge via FreeNOM.
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For obtaining an anonymous source of payment from a cash source you can buy pre-paid debit cards.
Many times you can also get free services for hosting and domain registration; for example, TLDs such as .tk and .ga are (as of this writing) free of charge via FreeNOM.
add a comment |
For obtaining an anonymous source of payment from a cash source you can buy pre-paid debit cards.
Many times you can also get free services for hosting and domain registration; for example, TLDs such as .tk and .ga are (as of this writing) free of charge via FreeNOM.
For obtaining an anonymous source of payment from a cash source you can buy pre-paid debit cards.
Many times you can also get free services for hosting and domain registration; for example, TLDs such as .tk and .ga are (as of this writing) free of charge via FreeNOM.
answered 12 hours ago
fluffyfluffy
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nothing beats bitcoin. so far, it's the meta anonymous coin to be used on the internet.
you can probably use it to possibly buy a disposable credit card from "semi-credited" sources (hypothetically, of course) and get vpn yeah? but it's not a good idea. VPN companies aren't mostly trusted imo, and those that are have a shitty product.
you want anonymity online? do what everyone does - TOR and bitcoin. simple enough.
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Bitcoin is not anonymous...
– forest
22 hours ago
2
As @forest commented, Bitcoin is explicitly not anonymous, which is why criminals use other cryptocurrencies which are anonymous to hide the money trail.
– Rory Alsop♦
17 hours ago
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nothing beats bitcoin. so far, it's the meta anonymous coin to be used on the internet.
you can probably use it to possibly buy a disposable credit card from "semi-credited" sources (hypothetically, of course) and get vpn yeah? but it's not a good idea. VPN companies aren't mostly trusted imo, and those that are have a shitty product.
you want anonymity online? do what everyone does - TOR and bitcoin. simple enough.
New contributor
9
Bitcoin is not anonymous...
– forest
22 hours ago
2
As @forest commented, Bitcoin is explicitly not anonymous, which is why criminals use other cryptocurrencies which are anonymous to hide the money trail.
– Rory Alsop♦
17 hours ago
add a comment |
nothing beats bitcoin. so far, it's the meta anonymous coin to be used on the internet.
you can probably use it to possibly buy a disposable credit card from "semi-credited" sources (hypothetically, of course) and get vpn yeah? but it's not a good idea. VPN companies aren't mostly trusted imo, and those that are have a shitty product.
you want anonymity online? do what everyone does - TOR and bitcoin. simple enough.
New contributor
nothing beats bitcoin. so far, it's the meta anonymous coin to be used on the internet.
you can probably use it to possibly buy a disposable credit card from "semi-credited" sources (hypothetically, of course) and get vpn yeah? but it's not a good idea. VPN companies aren't mostly trusted imo, and those that are have a shitty product.
you want anonymity online? do what everyone does - TOR and bitcoin. simple enough.
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answered yesterday
blahhblahh
9
9
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Bitcoin is not anonymous...
– forest
22 hours ago
2
As @forest commented, Bitcoin is explicitly not anonymous, which is why criminals use other cryptocurrencies which are anonymous to hide the money trail.
– Rory Alsop♦
17 hours ago
add a comment |
9
Bitcoin is not anonymous...
– forest
22 hours ago
2
As @forest commented, Bitcoin is explicitly not anonymous, which is why criminals use other cryptocurrencies which are anonymous to hide the money trail.
– Rory Alsop♦
17 hours ago
9
9
Bitcoin is not anonymous...
– forest
22 hours ago
Bitcoin is not anonymous...
– forest
22 hours ago
2
2
As @forest commented, Bitcoin is explicitly not anonymous, which is why criminals use other cryptocurrencies which are anonymous to hide the money trail.
– Rory Alsop♦
17 hours ago
As @forest commented, Bitcoin is explicitly not anonymous, which is why criminals use other cryptocurrencies which are anonymous to hide the money trail.
– Rory Alsop♦
17 hours ago
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If you don't want a domain for a service you're hosting for others but just for yourself to contact your own server, you can go for a free subdomain. There are several of these free services. Apart from saving a small amount of money, the advantages are that your name doesn't appear in some DNS registrar's database and that you don't leave identifying information in a money trail because there is no money trail.
– UTF-8
yesterday
@DxTx why would you want to buy a domain name? It's the inverse of privacy (registrar requires personal information that are publicly accessible via WHOIS).
– zakinster
17 hours ago
@zakinster I use that as an example. But there are ways to run a website anonymously, right? (Link01, Link02)
– DxTx
17 hours ago
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I personally defend the valuable topic of right to anonymity. But I shall also point out that regardless of any legitimate reason, the sole ability to transfer money anonymously opens the gate to money laundering and funding to either terrorist groups, mafia, Wikileaks etc. So there will always be forces trying to prevent each of us from transacting (truly) anonymously.
– usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ
13 hours ago
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@zakinster, private domain registration where the name of a proxy company is listed rather than your info is super common when registering domain names and most (all?) registrars provide that service. If you register with your real info, you will get spammed to death.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago