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Is there a familial term for apples and pears?
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The term Citrus Fruit covers oranges, lemons, and grapefruits; all of which are very similar in skin & flesh.
Is there a similar term to cover apples and pears (outside of Cockney rhyming slang)?
I realise that Citrus comes from biological classification (i.e. it's the common genus of these fruits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus).
Whilst apples and pears it seems are less closely related / you have to go back to the Rosaceae family (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosaceae) for their mutual branch, which also includes anything that blossoms (roses, cherries, almonds, and more).
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The term Citrus Fruit covers oranges, lemons, and grapefruits; all of which are very similar in skin & flesh.
Is there a similar term to cover apples and pears (outside of Cockney rhyming slang)?
I realise that Citrus comes from biological classification (i.e. it's the common genus of these fruits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus).
Whilst apples and pears it seems are less closely related / you have to go back to the Rosaceae family (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosaceae) for their mutual branch, which also includes anything that blossoms (roses, cherries, almonds, and more).
terminology food biology classification
2
Not to my knowledge, no, which is actually quite interesting since apples and pears are notionally very closely related in my mind. Despite being different species/genera/classes, I do think of them as being particularly closely associated with one another (more so than berries, which also comprise many different species and are more diverse than apples and pears), but I have no common word for them.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
I wondered about "orchard fruit" though that includes peaches and cherries.
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
5
Stairs.
– sjl
22 hours ago
1
You actualy only have to go up to the [Malinae ](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinae) but that doesn't help much
– Chris H
10 hours ago
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The term Citrus Fruit covers oranges, lemons, and grapefruits; all of which are very similar in skin & flesh.
Is there a similar term to cover apples and pears (outside of Cockney rhyming slang)?
I realise that Citrus comes from biological classification (i.e. it's the common genus of these fruits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus).
Whilst apples and pears it seems are less closely related / you have to go back to the Rosaceae family (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosaceae) for their mutual branch, which also includes anything that blossoms (roses, cherries, almonds, and more).
terminology food biology classification
The term Citrus Fruit covers oranges, lemons, and grapefruits; all of which are very similar in skin & flesh.
Is there a similar term to cover apples and pears (outside of Cockney rhyming slang)?
I realise that Citrus comes from biological classification (i.e. it's the common genus of these fruits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus).
Whilst apples and pears it seems are less closely related / you have to go back to the Rosaceae family (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosaceae) for their mutual branch, which also includes anything that blossoms (roses, cherries, almonds, and more).
terminology food biology classification
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Not to my knowledge, no, which is actually quite interesting since apples and pears are notionally very closely related in my mind. Despite being different species/genera/classes, I do think of them as being particularly closely associated with one another (more so than berries, which also comprise many different species and are more diverse than apples and pears), but I have no common word for them.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
I wondered about "orchard fruit" though that includes peaches and cherries.
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
5
Stairs.
– sjl
22 hours ago
1
You actualy only have to go up to the [Malinae ](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinae) but that doesn't help much
– Chris H
10 hours ago
add a comment |
2
Not to my knowledge, no, which is actually quite interesting since apples and pears are notionally very closely related in my mind. Despite being different species/genera/classes, I do think of them as being particularly closely associated with one another (more so than berries, which also comprise many different species and are more diverse than apples and pears), but I have no common word for them.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
I wondered about "orchard fruit" though that includes peaches and cherries.
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
5
Stairs.
– sjl
22 hours ago
1
You actualy only have to go up to the [Malinae ](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinae) but that doesn't help much
– Chris H
10 hours ago
2
2
Not to my knowledge, no, which is actually quite interesting since apples and pears are notionally very closely related in my mind. Despite being different species/genera/classes, I do think of them as being particularly closely associated with one another (more so than berries, which also comprise many different species and are more diverse than apples and pears), but I have no common word for them.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
Not to my knowledge, no, which is actually quite interesting since apples and pears are notionally very closely related in my mind. Despite being different species/genera/classes, I do think of them as being particularly closely associated with one another (more so than berries, which also comprise many different species and are more diverse than apples and pears), but I have no common word for them.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
I wondered about "orchard fruit" though that includes peaches and cherries.
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
I wondered about "orchard fruit" though that includes peaches and cherries.
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
5
5
Stairs.
– sjl
22 hours ago
Stairs.
– sjl
22 hours ago
1
1
You actualy only have to go up to the [Malinae ](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinae) but that doesn't help much
– Chris H
10 hours ago
You actualy only have to go up to the [Malinae ](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinae) but that doesn't help much
– Chris H
10 hours ago
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Yes, they are pomes
a fruit consisting of a fleshy enlarged receptacle and a tough central core containing the seeds, e.g., an apple or pear.
Pome:Google dictionary.
Ah nice, like the French Pommes. Thank you
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
10
As @DavidRicherby commented on another answer, be aware that the word "pome" (or "pomes") is not in common use. Be prepared to explain the word whenever you use it!
– RJHunter
20 hours ago
7
It might be rare, but it was in a NYTimes crossword within the last couple weeks.
– B. Goddard
13 hours ago
1
Google's results use Oxford BTW.
– MCCCS
9 hours ago
add a comment |
The corresponding expression to citrus fruit is pomaceous fruit(s):
Thus, the apple, crab, pear, quince, medlar, and possibly others are designated as “pomaceous" fruits, each having certain specific (as contrasted with general) natural characters in common. — US Dept. of Agriculture, Agriculture Yearbook, 1926.
I could not use a Google Book NGram to check for frequency because of the massive false hits for pome, but I think I’ve seen the adjective + fruit more often than the noun pome, in contrast to drupe, which appears to be more frequent than the adjective drupaceous.
12
As a very poor substitute for Google NGrams, my experience as a British native speaker is that I've never heard the word pome or pomaceous "in the wild". They appear to be technical terms in botany and I wouldn't be at all surprised if even greengrocers didn't know them.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Wouldn't be in general use, but as a gardener (who has all of that list but the medlar) I am familiar with the term, though more as just "pomes".
– jamesqf
19 hours ago
Please note: "More frequent" is relative..
– Alexander
11 hours ago
5
@DavidRicherby I've come across "pome" in gardening books. You're right about greengrocers, though they can't be trusted as authorities on the English language given what they do to apostrophes.
– Chris H
10 hours ago
2
@ChrisH Ah, yes. They might recognize "pomaceou's".
– David Richerby
10 hours ago
add a comment |
Regarding whether "pome" is used other than as a technical term in botany, I can provide at least one example of its general use in the poem "Old Sir Faulk" by Edith Sitwell which describes
"An old dull mome / with a head like a pome."
The poem is part of the collection Façade, written to be recited over instrumental music by William Walton.
More details and the full text may be found at: https://www.chandos.net/chanimages/Booklets/CH8869.pdf with the poem on page 16.
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Yes, they are pomes
a fruit consisting of a fleshy enlarged receptacle and a tough central core containing the seeds, e.g., an apple or pear.
Pome:Google dictionary.
Ah nice, like the French Pommes. Thank you
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
10
As @DavidRicherby commented on another answer, be aware that the word "pome" (or "pomes") is not in common use. Be prepared to explain the word whenever you use it!
– RJHunter
20 hours ago
7
It might be rare, but it was in a NYTimes crossword within the last couple weeks.
– B. Goddard
13 hours ago
1
Google's results use Oxford BTW.
– MCCCS
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Yes, they are pomes
a fruit consisting of a fleshy enlarged receptacle and a tough central core containing the seeds, e.g., an apple or pear.
Pome:Google dictionary.
Ah nice, like the French Pommes. Thank you
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
10
As @DavidRicherby commented on another answer, be aware that the word "pome" (or "pomes") is not in common use. Be prepared to explain the word whenever you use it!
– RJHunter
20 hours ago
7
It might be rare, but it was in a NYTimes crossword within the last couple weeks.
– B. Goddard
13 hours ago
1
Google's results use Oxford BTW.
– MCCCS
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Yes, they are pomes
a fruit consisting of a fleshy enlarged receptacle and a tough central core containing the seeds, e.g., an apple or pear.
Pome:Google dictionary.
Yes, they are pomes
a fruit consisting of a fleshy enlarged receptacle and a tough central core containing the seeds, e.g., an apple or pear.
Pome:Google dictionary.
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Ah nice, like the French Pommes. Thank you
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
10
As @DavidRicherby commented on another answer, be aware that the word "pome" (or "pomes") is not in common use. Be prepared to explain the word whenever you use it!
– RJHunter
20 hours ago
7
It might be rare, but it was in a NYTimes crossword within the last couple weeks.
– B. Goddard
13 hours ago
1
Google's results use Oxford BTW.
– MCCCS
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Ah nice, like the French Pommes. Thank you
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
10
As @DavidRicherby commented on another answer, be aware that the word "pome" (or "pomes") is not in common use. Be prepared to explain the word whenever you use it!
– RJHunter
20 hours ago
7
It might be rare, but it was in a NYTimes crossword within the last couple weeks.
– B. Goddard
13 hours ago
1
Google's results use Oxford BTW.
– MCCCS
9 hours ago
Ah nice, like the French Pommes. Thank you
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
Ah nice, like the French Pommes. Thank you
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
10
10
As @DavidRicherby commented on another answer, be aware that the word "pome" (or "pomes") is not in common use. Be prepared to explain the word whenever you use it!
– RJHunter
20 hours ago
As @DavidRicherby commented on another answer, be aware that the word "pome" (or "pomes") is not in common use. Be prepared to explain the word whenever you use it!
– RJHunter
20 hours ago
7
7
It might be rare, but it was in a NYTimes crossword within the last couple weeks.
– B. Goddard
13 hours ago
It might be rare, but it was in a NYTimes crossword within the last couple weeks.
– B. Goddard
13 hours ago
1
1
Google's results use Oxford BTW.
– MCCCS
9 hours ago
Google's results use Oxford BTW.
– MCCCS
9 hours ago
add a comment |
The corresponding expression to citrus fruit is pomaceous fruit(s):
Thus, the apple, crab, pear, quince, medlar, and possibly others are designated as “pomaceous" fruits, each having certain specific (as contrasted with general) natural characters in common. — US Dept. of Agriculture, Agriculture Yearbook, 1926.
I could not use a Google Book NGram to check for frequency because of the massive false hits for pome, but I think I’ve seen the adjective + fruit more often than the noun pome, in contrast to drupe, which appears to be more frequent than the adjective drupaceous.
12
As a very poor substitute for Google NGrams, my experience as a British native speaker is that I've never heard the word pome or pomaceous "in the wild". They appear to be technical terms in botany and I wouldn't be at all surprised if even greengrocers didn't know them.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Wouldn't be in general use, but as a gardener (who has all of that list but the medlar) I am familiar with the term, though more as just "pomes".
– jamesqf
19 hours ago
Please note: "More frequent" is relative..
– Alexander
11 hours ago
5
@DavidRicherby I've come across "pome" in gardening books. You're right about greengrocers, though they can't be trusted as authorities on the English language given what they do to apostrophes.
– Chris H
10 hours ago
2
@ChrisH Ah, yes. They might recognize "pomaceou's".
– David Richerby
10 hours ago
add a comment |
The corresponding expression to citrus fruit is pomaceous fruit(s):
Thus, the apple, crab, pear, quince, medlar, and possibly others are designated as “pomaceous" fruits, each having certain specific (as contrasted with general) natural characters in common. — US Dept. of Agriculture, Agriculture Yearbook, 1926.
I could not use a Google Book NGram to check for frequency because of the massive false hits for pome, but I think I’ve seen the adjective + fruit more often than the noun pome, in contrast to drupe, which appears to be more frequent than the adjective drupaceous.
12
As a very poor substitute for Google NGrams, my experience as a British native speaker is that I've never heard the word pome or pomaceous "in the wild". They appear to be technical terms in botany and I wouldn't be at all surprised if even greengrocers didn't know them.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Wouldn't be in general use, but as a gardener (who has all of that list but the medlar) I am familiar with the term, though more as just "pomes".
– jamesqf
19 hours ago
Please note: "More frequent" is relative..
– Alexander
11 hours ago
5
@DavidRicherby I've come across "pome" in gardening books. You're right about greengrocers, though they can't be trusted as authorities on the English language given what they do to apostrophes.
– Chris H
10 hours ago
2
@ChrisH Ah, yes. They might recognize "pomaceou's".
– David Richerby
10 hours ago
add a comment |
The corresponding expression to citrus fruit is pomaceous fruit(s):
Thus, the apple, crab, pear, quince, medlar, and possibly others are designated as “pomaceous" fruits, each having certain specific (as contrasted with general) natural characters in common. — US Dept. of Agriculture, Agriculture Yearbook, 1926.
I could not use a Google Book NGram to check for frequency because of the massive false hits for pome, but I think I’ve seen the adjective + fruit more often than the noun pome, in contrast to drupe, which appears to be more frequent than the adjective drupaceous.
The corresponding expression to citrus fruit is pomaceous fruit(s):
Thus, the apple, crab, pear, quince, medlar, and possibly others are designated as “pomaceous" fruits, each having certain specific (as contrasted with general) natural characters in common. — US Dept. of Agriculture, Agriculture Yearbook, 1926.
I could not use a Google Book NGram to check for frequency because of the massive false hits for pome, but I think I’ve seen the adjective + fruit more often than the noun pome, in contrast to drupe, which appears to be more frequent than the adjective drupaceous.
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As a very poor substitute for Google NGrams, my experience as a British native speaker is that I've never heard the word pome or pomaceous "in the wild". They appear to be technical terms in botany and I wouldn't be at all surprised if even greengrocers didn't know them.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Wouldn't be in general use, but as a gardener (who has all of that list but the medlar) I am familiar with the term, though more as just "pomes".
– jamesqf
19 hours ago
Please note: "More frequent" is relative..
– Alexander
11 hours ago
5
@DavidRicherby I've come across "pome" in gardening books. You're right about greengrocers, though they can't be trusted as authorities on the English language given what they do to apostrophes.
– Chris H
10 hours ago
2
@ChrisH Ah, yes. They might recognize "pomaceou's".
– David Richerby
10 hours ago
add a comment |
12
As a very poor substitute for Google NGrams, my experience as a British native speaker is that I've never heard the word pome or pomaceous "in the wild". They appear to be technical terms in botany and I wouldn't be at all surprised if even greengrocers didn't know them.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Wouldn't be in general use, but as a gardener (who has all of that list but the medlar) I am familiar with the term, though more as just "pomes".
– jamesqf
19 hours ago
Please note: "More frequent" is relative..
– Alexander
11 hours ago
5
@DavidRicherby I've come across "pome" in gardening books. You're right about greengrocers, though they can't be trusted as authorities on the English language given what they do to apostrophes.
– Chris H
10 hours ago
2
@ChrisH Ah, yes. They might recognize "pomaceou's".
– David Richerby
10 hours ago
12
12
As a very poor substitute for Google NGrams, my experience as a British native speaker is that I've never heard the word pome or pomaceous "in the wild". They appear to be technical terms in botany and I wouldn't be at all surprised if even greengrocers didn't know them.
– David Richerby
yesterday
As a very poor substitute for Google NGrams, my experience as a British native speaker is that I've never heard the word pome or pomaceous "in the wild". They appear to be technical terms in botany and I wouldn't be at all surprised if even greengrocers didn't know them.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
1
Wouldn't be in general use, but as a gardener (who has all of that list but the medlar) I am familiar with the term, though more as just "pomes".
– jamesqf
19 hours ago
Wouldn't be in general use, but as a gardener (who has all of that list but the medlar) I am familiar with the term, though more as just "pomes".
– jamesqf
19 hours ago
Please note: "More frequent" is relative..
– Alexander
11 hours ago
Please note: "More frequent" is relative..
– Alexander
11 hours ago
5
5
@DavidRicherby I've come across "pome" in gardening books. You're right about greengrocers, though they can't be trusted as authorities on the English language given what they do to apostrophes.
– Chris H
10 hours ago
@DavidRicherby I've come across "pome" in gardening books. You're right about greengrocers, though they can't be trusted as authorities on the English language given what they do to apostrophes.
– Chris H
10 hours ago
2
2
@ChrisH Ah, yes. They might recognize "pomaceou's".
– David Richerby
10 hours ago
@ChrisH Ah, yes. They might recognize "pomaceou's".
– David Richerby
10 hours ago
add a comment |
Regarding whether "pome" is used other than as a technical term in botany, I can provide at least one example of its general use in the poem "Old Sir Faulk" by Edith Sitwell which describes
"An old dull mome / with a head like a pome."
The poem is part of the collection Façade, written to be recited over instrumental music by William Walton.
More details and the full text may be found at: https://www.chandos.net/chanimages/Booklets/CH8869.pdf with the poem on page 16.
New contributor
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Regarding whether "pome" is used other than as a technical term in botany, I can provide at least one example of its general use in the poem "Old Sir Faulk" by Edith Sitwell which describes
"An old dull mome / with a head like a pome."
The poem is part of the collection Façade, written to be recited over instrumental music by William Walton.
More details and the full text may be found at: https://www.chandos.net/chanimages/Booklets/CH8869.pdf with the poem on page 16.
New contributor
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Regarding whether "pome" is used other than as a technical term in botany, I can provide at least one example of its general use in the poem "Old Sir Faulk" by Edith Sitwell which describes
"An old dull mome / with a head like a pome."
The poem is part of the collection Façade, written to be recited over instrumental music by William Walton.
More details and the full text may be found at: https://www.chandos.net/chanimages/Booklets/CH8869.pdf with the poem on page 16.
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Regarding whether "pome" is used other than as a technical term in botany, I can provide at least one example of its general use in the poem "Old Sir Faulk" by Edith Sitwell which describes
"An old dull mome / with a head like a pome."
The poem is part of the collection Façade, written to be recited over instrumental music by William Walton.
More details and the full text may be found at: https://www.chandos.net/chanimages/Booklets/CH8869.pdf with the poem on page 16.
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Not to my knowledge, no, which is actually quite interesting since apples and pears are notionally very closely related in my mind. Despite being different species/genera/classes, I do think of them as being particularly closely associated with one another (more so than berries, which also comprise many different species and are more diverse than apples and pears), but I have no common word for them.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
I wondered about "orchard fruit" though that includes peaches and cherries.
– JohnLBevan
yesterday
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Stairs.
– sjl
22 hours ago
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You actualy only have to go up to the [Malinae ](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinae) but that doesn't help much
– Chris H
10 hours ago